3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game
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Bbudt wrote:
mana leech. as there are no mana flasks and no mana leech on tree im wondering where you get your mana refill from?
mana regen is all you need for all maps except the ones that have No Regen modifiers.
Both Convocation and Cyclone (the two most used skills) take very very little mana and our basic regen covers them.
For No Regn maps, you need to carry a mana flask.
come again????
im using HEAPS of mana...
1). the skeletons only last 34 seconds and also die very easily.... So recasting them constantly costs a lot of mana.
2). Im always using Spirit Offering and Desecrate. (if you're not using it also then why even have it?)
3). I hardly ever use Cyclone as i just stand back and let my army attack everything. (Actually why is Cyclone in this build? it is slow and cumbersome relative to the fast managerie you possess)
The way i play this build is as follows:
Quicksilver pot + flame dash (me moving around the map), convocation, spirit offering, Desecrate, Amethyst flask, granite flask, re-summon skeletons (cos some have died and timed-out also).. Rinse and repeat.
Oh yea then theres also: Bone offering to shield your minions and the occasional recasting of Zombies as seldom they die.
So all-in-all there's a hell of a lot of button bashing with this build, that im finding at least.. Don't know about you.. but I use a lot of keybinds as you can see. All of my keybind spaces are utilized, and when i press CTRL, those spaces are utilized also with the auras and the lesser used things.
<<<<<< I think i might go back to switching out PRIDE for CLARITY. >>>>>>> thoughts on this?
All the above costs mana, especially when Skeletons have such a short life span.
Tell me at what point do u use Cyclone?
My path of destruction goes up when using desecrate and spirit offering, So once again i say to you: why are u also not using it? if not then why is it in this build?
Last edited by Bbudt#4243 on Jan 29, 2020, 4:22:23 AM
mana leech. as there are no mana flasks and no mana leech on tree im wondering where you get your mana refill from?
mana regen is all you need for all maps except the ones that have No Regen modifiers.
Both Convocation and Cyclone (the two most used skills) take very very little mana and our basic regen covers them.
For No Regn maps, you need to carry a mana flask.
come again????
im using HEAPS of mana...
1). the skeletons only last 34 seconds and also die very easily.... So recasting them constantly costs a lot of mana.
2). Im always using Spirit Offering and Desecrate. (if you're not using it also then why even have it?)
3). I hardly ever use Cyclone as i just stand back and let my army attack everything. (Actually why is Cyclone in this build? it is slow and cumbersome relative to the fast managerie you possess)
The way i play this build is as follows:
Quicksilver pot + flame dash (me moving around the map), convocation, spirit offering, Desecrate, Amethyst flask, granite flask, re-summon skeletons (cos some have died and timed-out also).. Rinse and repeat.
Oh yea then theres also: Bone offering to shield your minions and the occasional recasting of Zombies as seldom they die.
So all-in-all there's a hell of a lot of button bashing with this build, that im finding at least.. Don't know about you.. but I use a lot of keybinds as you can see. All of my keybind spaces are utilized, and when i press CTRL, those spaces are utilized also with the auras and the lesser used things.
All the above costs mana, especially when Skeletons have such a short life span.
Tell me at what point do u use Cyclone?
My path of destruction goes up when using desecrate and spirit offering, So once again i say to you: why are u also not using it? if not then why is it in this build?
You use Cyclone to cast spirit offering + desecrate with cast while channeling gem. Then you don't need to spend mana on those and it makes the gameplay way more smooth. (Use quicksilver flask with cyclone and it's feels fine)
Also try to only spawn skeletons on bosses, there is no need for them at regular packs as zombies 1 shot them.
mana leech. as there are no mana flasks and no mana leech on tree im wondering where you get your mana refill from?
mana regen is all you need for all maps except the ones that have No Regen modifiers.
Both Convocation and Cyclone (the two most used skills) take very very little mana and our basic regen covers them.
For No Regn maps, you need to carry a mana flask.
come again????
im using HEAPS of mana...
1). the skeletons only last 34 seconds and also die very easily.... So recasting them constantly costs a lot of mana.
2). Im always using Spirit Offering and Desecrate. (if you're not using it also then why even have it?)
3). I hardly ever use Cyclone as i just stand back and let my army attack everything. (Actually why is Cyclone in this build? it is slow and cumbersome relative to the fast managerie you possess)
The way i play this build is as follows:
Quicksilver pot + flame dash (me moving around the map), convocation, spirit offering, Desecrate, Amethyst flask, granite flask, re-summon skeletons (cos some have died and timed-out also).. Rinse and repeat.
Oh yea then theres also: Bone offering to shield your minions and the occasional recasting of Zombies as seldom they die.
So all-in-all there's a hell of a lot of button bashing with this build, that im finding at least.. Don't know about you.. but I use a lot of keybinds as you can see. All of my keybind spaces are utilized, and when i press CTRL, those spaces are utilized also with the auras and the lesser used things.
<<<<<< I think i might go back to switching out PRIDE for CLARITY. >>>>>>> thoughts on this?
All the above costs mana, especially when Skeletons have such a short life span.
Tell me at what point do u use Cyclone?
My path of destruction goes up when using desecrate and spirit offering, So once again i say to you: why are u also not using it? if not then why is it in this build?
I use Cyclone almost 100% of the time. It takes virtually no mana to use. It self casts Spirit Offering and Desecrate as you cyclone. It is the single key mechanic in the build. It sounds like you are missing the Cast When Channeling Support gem in the cyclone set up. I would recommend reading the first post again and focusing on the gem set ups.
I also use Convovation a lot but that has a cool down so it can only be spammed so much.
The non clarity based mana regen more than keeps up with our basic needs.
I do not use skeletons in the build so I can't speak to that.
I personally would not change Pride for Clarity. Your DPS is going to plummet for almost no gain in the build unless you are using the super expensive watcher's eye.
Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge#5265 on Jan 29, 2020, 4:31:00 AM
SHIFT + left mouse activates my Cyclone, Right mouse is my Desecrate, using a logitech game mouse so flask #4 and 5 are actually buttons on the top of the mouse next to left click....
As i cannot use numbers on keyboard (retarded typist) this kind of makes my gameplay awkward..
Just map cyclone to your right mouse key. Don't map desecrate or spirit offering to anything.
Then just press right mouse key when playing at it will do cyclone, desecrate, and spirit offering for you constantly.
Then map one other key to convocation and you will have 90% of your game play mapped out especially if you stop spamming skeletons.
Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge#5265 on Jan 29, 2020, 4:43:15 AM
Regarding resistance, Do we just rely on hitting exactly the cap? or do people use jewels to further raise resistances?
I just reached map and bought all the budget gear. and I am only capped with minions + offering, which resultet min in getting 1 shotted before I reached the first pack.
Do you prebuff before starting to run the map? It's the only way I could make it work.
You use Cyclone to cast spirit offering + desecrate with cast while channeling gem. Then you don't need to spend mana on those and it makes the gameplay way more smooth. (Use quicksilver flask with cyclone and it's feels fine)
Also try to only spawn skeletons on bosses, there is no need for them at regular packs as zombies 1 shot them.
oh. didnt know this.
Thats a bit awkward..
SHIFT + left mouse activates my Cyclone, Right mouse is my Desecrate, using a logitech game mouse so flask #4 and 5 are actually buttons on the top of the mouse next to left click....
As i cannot use numbers on keyboard (retarded typist) this kind of makes my gameplay awkward..
Yeah i also dont know how to use this website.. i cannot understand the quote marks...
Btw i have copied the gem setup.. just because i have copied the gem setup does not measn i am copying the supposed gameplay style. OK im going to have to remove flask from keys 4 and 5 cos left clicking and with 4 and 5 being adjacent to the left click does not effing work.... i really wish i could touch type but for the life of me i cannot learn it.
Im level 86.. i havn't got those unique tree jewels yet... im using two jewels atm.. with Minion movement, attack speed, Life (for myself) etc...
No problem, I could find my way in the post.
For someone like you, the cyclone setup must be even more useful when y ou play like that. The guide recommends that your shoes is 2blue2green linked sockets
Cyclone - Desecrate - Cast while Channeling - Spirit offering.
When you have it like this, you pretty much just spin everytime you need the buff (I Usually just spin in to the pack and run to the next then spin again)
If you need any help you can whisper me ingame /w QuiteBabySleeps
I don't mind helping :)
Last edited by dkdunk#3879 on Jan 29, 2020, 4:44:07 AM
Great build. I'm using tanky version and it's pretty good. I changed my winter orb build. It's not faster like winter orb when i am in map but i don't die anymore.
I wanna ask you something guys.
I'm using Dread Banner, Discipline, Vulnerability and Pride but i can not use Aspect of Avian. Is it important for me?
I have no unset ring, so i can not use Clarity too but it's not important for me.
No need for Avian. Only use that if wearing Saqawals chest.
If anything, you can get some curse on hit gloves and swap out vulnerability for skitterbots.
Can anyone look at my summoner and tell me what I am doing wrong? I can barely clear T9 maps with my current setup and I have no idea why...
Hmmm, we are the same level. You should be doing better. I was clearing t15 maps even with a similar budget weapon that you have (I upgraded yesterday to fight Sirus).
I downloaded your build into POB.
The first thing that jumps out at me is your aura set up looks off. You are missing the key Enlighten support gem.
What Aura's are you actually running when playing since you can turn them all on with out Enlighten?
If you are perhaps not turning on Pride, then that is going to be a big issue damage wise.
If you are broke, get an affordable Enlighten Level 3 and at least run Pride, Dread Banner and Vulnerability. Leave discipline off until you get a level 4 Enlighten.
Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge#5265 on Jan 29, 2020, 4:56:55 AM
