3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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Kalissar wrote:

I'm excited to try the build with the nerfs balance adjustments in the new league!

I'd like to add Infernal Legion summon skeletons to this, maybe with minion instability (keeping zombies and spectres, but adding skels as well).

I have a few questions:
- Is it worth it (the infernal legion skels ?)
- Should I go vanilla skels ?
- How do you guys summon your skeletons ? totems ? cast while channeling ? manually ?

Thanks for the replies !

I was using infernal legion skeletons in Blight, and found them extremely effective. I'd spawn them ahead of me, and generally they'd burn off all trash mobs before the zombies got there, and the zombies would then concentrate on the big boys. Worked well.

No fancy setup either as I was running a medium-cheap build.

If using Minion Instability, you'll probably have to control your skeleton numbers manually. Afaik they don't explode if removed because you cast more, exceeding your total number.

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brunowa wrote:

Swap Multistrike for Awakened Multistrike
Swap Minion Speed/Minion Damage for Awakened Minion Damage
Swap Melee Physical Damage for Awakened Melee Physical Damage Support
Swap Brutality for Awakened Brutality
Swap Melee Splash for Awakened Melee Splash (if using skeletons)

and you think you can get them easy right? I think the same way about silver and gold oils.

So thinking about it, a Shaper Mace is probably still BiS.

Roll:
+1 to socketed gems
+ your choice of other cool shaper mod

Craft:
+2 to socketed support gems
Minion Life/Damage

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lordfratos wrote:

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brunowa wrote:

Swap Multistrike for Awakened Multistrike
Swap Minion Speed/Minion Damage for Awakened Minion Damage
Swap Melee Physical Damage for Awakened Melee Physical Damage Support
Swap Brutality for Awakened Brutality
Swap Melee Splash for Awakened Melee Splash (if using skeletons)

and you think you can get them easy right? I think the same way about silver and gold oils.

Not sure how easy they will be to obtain. Probably not too easy. And they will take a loooooooooong time to level so when I say that above that's a long -term benefit, not something we can instantly add in.

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brunowa wrote:

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lordfratos wrote:

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brunowa wrote:

Swap Multistrike for Awakened Multistrike
Swap Minion Speed/Minion Damage for Awakened Minion Damage
Swap Melee Physical Damage for Awakened Melee Physical Damage Support
Swap Brutality for Awakened Brutality
Swap Melee Splash for Awakened Melee Splash (if using skeletons)

and you think you can get them easy right? I think the same way about silver and gold oils.

Not sure how easy they will be to obtain. Probably not too easy. And they will take a loooooooooong time to level so when I say that above that's a long -term benefit, not something we can instantly add in.

A level 1 awakaned support is supposed to be stronger than its level 20 normal counterpart, so even if they take a looooooooong time to level, they're still an upgrade from the day you socket them in.

Any idea when the updated pob will be shared?
The nerfs to this build mostly look like it aimed at move speed, and calming down the zombie a bit.

Looks like it should be very viable, for sure.
I'm just curious to see if the passives will change, and what the changes will be.

Also, they added so many buffs/changes to bow builds. Jesus they really want a bow meta lul. I had my fill of bow builds in the 6 years I played d2. Not too keen on playing bow builds again.

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Ysonoko wrote:

Any idea when the updated pob will be shared?
The nerfs to this build mostly look like it aimed at move speed, and calming down the zombie a bit.

Looks like it should be very viable, for sure.
I'm just curious to see if the passives will change, and what the changes will be.

Also, they added so many buffs/changes to bow builds. Jesus they really want a bow meta lul. I had my fill of bow builds in the 6 years I played d2. Not too keen on playing bow builds again.

Will only be minor tree changes if any. The tree hasn't changed. If anything I would spec into a few more offensive nodes rather than defensive.

I'll update tomorrow.

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Kalissar wrote:

A level 1 awakaned support is supposed to be stronger than its level 20 normal counterpart, so even if they take a looooooooong time to level, they're still an upgrade from the day you socket them in.

Yeah good point! So it is an instant upgrade when we get the drop.

1. Do you guys think this is still strongest summoner league starter or is there any competition?

2. How is this build doing at uber lab at an early state?

What do you think about this new armor added to mobs? Maybe it is worth to go with 4xblue triad grips + hatred + EE, or just 4xwhite triad grips?