3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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helios5 wrote:
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LethalMuffins wrote:
I've been running the speed build for a minute with hopes of transitioning to the ranged spectre build. However, I'm running into a big problem. Spell echo causes raise spectre to proc twice meaning I always get one sentinel and one crappy minion. Any help with this?

Just unslot echo, raise spectres and put echo back.

Can't unslot from Hungry Loop.
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RDS1964 wrote:
Hey.

My Mionions dont die. When someone is lying in the Dust, its me -.-
I dont have the feeling, the Build is weak but thats why i dont understand why i die so damned fast.

I just build up my "Hybrid" and startet now to use clusterjewels, what is really interesting.

as u can see in my Fork PoB https://pastebin.com/Y21qN5Ni it looks ok, at least for me.

i can switch between more Life for Minions or more Mionion DMG by swapping cluster-jwls.

I did a look at that so called cluster jewel stacking-build but i cant see me there,for some reasons. i dont really want to completly rebuild my actual build.

My Question:
What the Hell must i do, to avoid dying? i am not talking about mechanics or movement. Just to make the Build more stable without weakening the Minions too much.

The last 2 Deaths have been a Metamorph again (ofc) and lightning throwing Enemy from Beyond. No chance to dodge the light spell, too fast (light is indeed really fast)

have a nice 2h Weapon. dont really "want" to change to 1h weapons.

Perhaps there are easy improvements, i didnt see..

Thx boyz





This league i went with Armour staking instead of ES and it has been performing well for me. Phys reduction is capped at 90%. ele res way overcapped for any weaknesses. Only thing that kills me is chaos damage.

I'm using the crab chest with determination and tripple determination watchers eye. "huge defensive upgrade"


most of my damage comes from the hubris "+240%"
Also the hubris gives me free endurance charges when i take a hit which is another defensive boost.

feel free to check my profile...
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michealcell wrote:
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RDS1964 wrote:

My Question:
What the Hell must i do, to avoid dying? i am not talking about mechanics or movement. Just to make the Build more stable without weakening the Minions too much.


I was in the same boat as you, being the first in the dust and getting annoyed by dying every other T16 or so. I've made a hybrid speed/tank build and it is very hard for me to die, basically if I die it is because I stood in the bad or something; here is my PoB for reference: https://pastebin.com/Pa89J3wJ

As for your build, I took a look and here are some notes for more survivability:
- A Emperor's Mastery jewel would help
- Are you using Mask of the Tribunal on your AG? I went with that as it is currently giving me 48% increased defenses and it really helps.
- Some more chaos resist wouldn't hurt
- I'd drop the Alberon's Warpath and Astramentis and get some good rare's, that way you can get some more ES and other stats


Thx a lot
for your input.
Its welcome.

- I use Mask of the Tribunal!
- Emerors Mastery is too expensive
- i did have good chaos resis till i took off Watchers eye :/
- i am looking for good Boots/Amu but Alberon are BIS at this Time and for the Money. Same for Astramentis.
A Replacement would be VERY expensive. i guess its luck to find a good one...

i have no doubts that i reach 97 in some Time. but this sudden Deaths sukk
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Ayanad wrote:
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RDS1964 wrote:
Hey.

My Mionions dont die. When someone is lying in the Dust, its me -.-
I dont have the feeling, the Build is weak but thats why i dont understand why i die so damned fast.

I just build up my "Hybrid" and startet now to use clusterjewels, what is really interesting.

as u can see in my Fork PoB https://pastebin.com/Y21qN5Ni it looks ok, at least for me.

i can switch between more Life for Minions or more Mionion DMG by swapping cluster-jwls.

I did a look at that so called cluster jewel stacking-build but i cant see me there,for some reasons. i dont really want to completly rebuild my actual build.

My Question:
What the Hell must i do, to avoid dying? i am not talking about mechanics or movement. Just to make the Build more stable without weakening the Minions too much.

The last 2 Deaths have been a Metamorph again (ofc) and lightning throwing Enemy from Beyond. No chance to dodge the light spell, too fast (light is indeed really fast)

have a nice 2h Weapon. dont really "want" to change to 1h weapons.

Perhaps there are easy improvements, i didnt see..

Thx boyz





This league i went with Armour staking instead of ES and it has been performing well for me. Phys reduction is capped at 90%. ele res way overcapped for any weaknesses. Only thing that kills me is chaos damage.

I'm using the crab chest with determination and tripple determination watchers eye. "huge defensive upgrade"


most of my damage comes from the hubris "+240%"
Also the hubris gives me free endurance charges when i take a hit which is another defensive boost.

feel free to check my profile...


Thanks a lot.
I have the feeling, Armour isnt that bad!
Wish i could have more.
I am at 6300 Armour and 45% phys reduction

I use Lethal pride and just pumped in 30 Devine Orbs with medicore success.

Interesting Way u r going with your Build. Focus on DMG/Hybris and Defense/Crab.

But at this point i dont want to change my equipment completly.
Last edited by RDS1964#1791 on May 5, 2020, 9:58:23 AM
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RDS1964 wrote:


Thx a lot
for your input.
Its welcome.

- I use Mask of the Tribunal!
- Emerors Mastery is too expensive
- i did have good chaos resis till i took off Watchers eye :/
- i am looking for good Boots/Amu but Alberon are BIS at this Time and for the Money. Same for Astramentis.
A Replacement would be VERY expensive. i guess its luck to find a good one...

i have no doubts that i reach 97 in some Time. but this sudden Deaths sukk


What about your Spectre's? You can get a They of Tul that gives a great def buff. I'm currently using Arena Master, They of Tul, Sin Master, and Ruin's Helion.
Last edited by michealcell#6743 on May 5, 2020, 10:46:23 AM
Guys, in the tanky version, how we use spirit offering and desecrate without cyclone?
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Last edited by Ayanad#1624 on May 5, 2020, 10:49:31 AM

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RDS1964 wrote:

Thanks a lot.
I have the feeling, Armour isnt that bad!
Wish i could have more.
I am at 6300 Armour and 45% phys reduction

I use Lethal pride and just pumped in 30 Devine Orbs with medicore success.

Interesting Way u r going with your Build. Focus on DMG/Hybris and Defense/Crab.

But at this point i dont want to change my equipment completly.


Ok. you can make few improvements to your current build:

- move awakened generosity and dread banner to chest.
- move molten and discipline to glove
- use vaal molten instead of molten.
- replace withering step with phase run (wither debuff is doing nothing. you use brutality so you cannot deal chaos damage).
- don't rely on flasks to overcap resists. Have at least max+35 for each resist.
- replace your bithmus with Rumi's flask. Rumi's is too good defensively.
- have immune to bleed on one of the flasks. Corrupted blood is not the only form of bleed.

if all this doesn't help with survivability then try to replace bone barrier with mistress of sacrifice so you can benefit from the bone offering effect.
Last edited by Ayanad#1624 on May 5, 2020, 10:51:39 AM
hey in TANKY END-GAME SETUP do we active discipline or its just in there because of it's vaal
Hi! Can you please tell me how to kill Phoenix T16?

He erases all my minions incl. guardian in a few seconds, even if I use minion life for Zomies and Guardian plus desecrate and spirit or bone offering. No Zombies, no life leech, no chance to survive... Only my Spectres would survive (2 Carnage and 2 Host Chieftains).

My gear isn´t perfect yet, I know, but I think it´s not to bad at this point. I don´t like trading very much, so I don´t have enough currency to buy some better gear at the moment.
You can check my character here:
https://de.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Orko79/characters , character is "ClaraFall".

Elemental resistances are all alround 90% + 26% with flask, chaos res with flask is -5%

Damage would be no problem, I could kill Phoenix in about 20-30sec with Skeletons, but I´m dying to fast.

Thank you and sorry for my bad English :)
Last edited by Orko79#1297 on May 5, 2020, 12:33:21 PM

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