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I have several questions if someone more well informed doesn't mind answering.
Are skellies not viable end-game? I'm guessing not from a lack of builds having them. They seem nice with vaal and body tanking/mobbing.
How would you tier: multistrike support, minion damage support, melee physical damage support, impale support, maim support, and brutality support? (and any other I'm missing for this build)
I'm guessing it goes multistrike=impale=minion damage>>melee physical>brutality and maim just goes with flesh and stone but wouldn't be used alone?
What would be the best 3/4 spectre set up? I've been using solar guards but seems like everyone here prefers carnage/host chieftain and mervail's. What would the 4th be?
Spirit or flesh offering better?
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Posted byAnimaura#7165on Apr 4, 2020, 5:50:26 PM
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ilizan wrote:
I'm sorry for the newbie answer. First time playing summoner and I'm liking it even though I'm struggling a bit to progress with gear and have died a few times, especially when I tried Atziri.
Anyway, I'm using the Budget version and trying to follow the gear and gems: why do we use Blood Magic linked to Raise Spectre/Animate Guardian/Meat Shield?
Thanks in advance.
It's in the FAQ.
Why do we use Blood Magic in helmet?
Our spectres use mana to cast war crys that give frenzy and power charges to our zombies and skeletons.
Blood Magic allows them to spam their warcries so that your minions always have full frenzy and power charges (big boost to DPS).
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Posted byAnimaura#7165on Apr 4, 2020, 5:51:24 PM
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ilizan wrote:
I'm sorry for the newbie answer. First time playing summoner and I'm liking it even though I'm struggling a bit to progress with gear and have died a few times, especially when I tried Atziri.
Anyway, I'm using the Budget version and trying to follow the gear and gems: why do we use Blood Magic linked to Raise Spectre/Animate Guardian/Meat Shield?
Thanks in advance.
It's in the FAQ.
Why do we use Blood Magic in helmet?
Our spectres use mana to cast war crys that give frenzy and power charges to our zombies and skeletons.
Blood Magic allows them to spam their warcries so that your minions always have full frenzy and power charges (big boost to DPS).
Sorry, didn't see that. It's really nice then, thanks for sharing that.
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Posted byilizan#3807on Apr 4, 2020, 5:55:27 PM
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damoose222 wrote:
i manually cast desecrate to move my minions. it has no cd so i just spam it to move them around
Exactly! just knew it was easier than I was giving it
even tho that may work for someone else, i dont think i have a slot for a 2nd desecrate, and mine is on autocast along with spirit offering on trigger wand.
could maybe drop ff from 4l with carrion, and add it maybe its worth a test..
gettin a 2nd unset ring could also do it, but hard to get resists done
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Posted byadriano447#2784on Apr 4, 2020, 5:56:43 PM
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Animaura wrote:
I have several questions if someone more well informed doesn't mind answering.
Are skellies not viable end-game? I'm guessing not from a lack of builds having them. They seem nice with vaal and body tanking/mobbing.
How would you tier: multistrike support, minion damage support, melee physical damage support, impale support, maim support, and brutality support? (and any other I'm missing for this build)
I'm guessing it goes multistrike=impale=minion damage>>melee physical>brutality and maim just goes with flesh and stone but wouldn't be used alone?
What would be the best 3/4 spectre set up? I've been using solar guards but seems like everyone here prefers carnage/host chieftain and mervail's. What would the 4th be?
Spirit or flesh offering better?
skel shifted to triple offering and likely works fine my set last season still running 700k no changes easy, down from 1.1m but yea, no cluster since was a meta char, I stopped checking the pure phys build since the author got hired by ggg it wasnt updated :(
unless I am misunderstanding and you mean skellies into this zombie build which is maybe doable with a hungry loop lol? old 6l zom+ 6l skel isn't too good now for sure, aura too op.
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Posted byNchi#1907on Apr 4, 2020, 5:57:15 PM
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Animaura wrote:
I have several questions if someone more well informed doesn't mind answering.
Are skellies not viable end-game? I'm guessing not from a lack of builds having them. They seem nice with vaal and body tanking/mobbing.
How would you tier: multistrike support, minion damage support, melee physical damage support, impale support, maim support, and brutality support? (and any other I'm missing for this build)
I'm guessing it goes multistrike=impale=minion damage>>melee physical>brutality and maim just goes with flesh and stone but wouldn't be used alone?
What would be the best 3/4 spectre set up? I've been using solar guards but seems like everyone here prefers carnage/host chieftain and mervail's. What would the 4th be?
Spirit or flesh offering better?
skel shifted to triple offering and likely works fine my set last season still running 700k no changes easy, down from 1.1m but yea, no cluster since was a meta char, I stopped checking the pure phys build since the author got hired by ggg it wasnt updated :(
unless I am misunderstanding and you mean skellies into this zombie build which is maybe doable with a hungry loop lol? old 6l zom+ 6l skel isn't too good now for sure, aura too op.
Ya I was wondering about 6l zombie and skel but seems liek aura is dominant right now. Thanks.
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Posted byAnimaura#7165on Apr 4, 2020, 6:00:28 PM
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Calibrated84 wrote:
Gonna blow your guys minds if you try this but I found what I believe to be the BEST combo for specters.. in fact I am confident, you heard it here 1st, that this combo will be as essential as the 2 apes in EVERYONE'S setup. You can either do my preferred 1x frenzy ape, 1x power charge ape, and 2x arena masters OR 2 frenzy 1 power 1 arena master.. 2 masters is AMAZING. they give a buff in a HUGE aoe that gives you mob literally the attack and cast speed AND MOVE SPEED equal or greater than a flesh offering.. with 2 you will get 100% up-time.. This is INSANELY good for our dps and stacks amazing with our own flesh offering OR allows guilt free use of the powerful bone offering defense option.. like I said its AMAZING and WILL be the defacto specter combo for this build. I PROMISE YOU.
Ive tried all other support specters and Arena masters blows them all out of the water BY FAR. MSG me anytime if you have questions.
Baranite cleric give you phys as extra lightining damage, so I would say its better 1x frenzy ape, 1x power ape, 1x master of arena and 1x baranite cleric. Also its been weeks some streamers talked about arena masters being good to buff your other minions
Yes as I said I tried ALL support specters including clerics. Sadly Clerics actually cause "extra lightning damage". this for is not nearly as good as other ele conversion methods. In addition they have a very small aoe for their buff and that aoe does not benefit from inc area of effect. This is not subjective to opinion. The fact is the relatively small amount of dps gained from their lightning buff PALES in comparison to the added atk speed that all of your melee minions in this build benefit from GREATLY.
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Posted byCalibrated84#2067on Apr 4, 2020, 6:08:56 PM
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Ok just got an Arena Master. Its found in any Drox influenced map.
It seems to be ok. Thumps a lot LOL.
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Posted byKonflict#2601on Apr 4, 2020, 6:09:41 PM
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Ok just got an Arena Master. Its found in any Drox influenced map.
It seems to be ok. Thumps a lot LOL.
Yeah i meant to say any drox map sorry.. Hell yeah brother enjoy! Its a game changer I promise you.
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Posted byCalibrated84#2067on Apr 4, 2020, 6:11:36 PM
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Nchi wrote:
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Animaura wrote:
I have several questions if someone more well informed doesn't mind answering.
Are skellies not viable end-game? I'm guessing not from a lack of builds having them. They seem nice with vaal and body tanking/mobbing.
How would you tier: multistrike support, minion damage support, melee physical damage support, impale support, maim support, and brutality support? (and any other I'm missing for this build)
I'm guessing it goes multistrike=impale=minion damage>>melee physical>brutality and maim just goes with flesh and stone but wouldn't be used alone?
What would be the best 3/4 spectre set up? I've been using solar guards but seems like everyone here prefers carnage/host chieftain and mervail's. What would the 4th be?
Spirit or flesh offering better?
skel shifted to triple offering and likely works fine my set last season still running 700k no changes easy, down from 1.1m but yea, no cluster since was a meta char, I stopped checking the pure phys build since the author got hired by ggg it wasnt updated :(
unless I am misunderstanding and you mean skellies into this zombie build which is maybe doable with a hungry loop lol? old 6l zom+ 6l skel isn't too good now for sure, aura too op.
Ya I was wondering about 6l zombie and skel but seems liek aura is dominant right now. Thanks.
You can just swap out zombies for skeletons in your 6L and you instantly have a skeleton build. Changing the helm is really the only thing else you would want to do if you wanted to run that way.
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Posted bybrunowa#6253on Apr 4, 2020, 6:16:19 PM
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