3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

So far I am quite surprised avout this build, much fun. Thing is I am already thinking about getting bow or a staff. statwise bow is an advantage, so whats the disadvantage I am asking myself? Moving I do with flame dash.

cheers

N.

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Elorathiel wrote:

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florian59300 wrote:

to @Elorathiel or @adriano447

pob seems kinda fucked so you take pride over flesh and stone + maim and aspect of the avian
does it scales better ?

ty for the help

Hi! Well, firstly. We don't have anywhere we can fit Avian because we aren't using a two-hand weapon and our rings are packed full with no room for avian so the point is immediately rendered moot. Second point, we are not running Saqawals so no enhanced Avian. Pride is just the better choice for us. I'd love to fit flesh and stone/maim AND pride but we just don't have points for the mana reservation.

I got it all with like 7% left lol! AND should get 12 minions via level 34 zombies, NO CLUSTERS YET only level 88 and still might be able to get 1500 str maybe??? Just the level 4 empower for 12 and clusters might get 13 with those wall of muscles??

https://pastebin.com/Aj9vR60r

You're comparing apples to oranges, my man. We are running our cluster stacking build and you are running a 0 cluster old school build with the full aura wheel invested in. It's hard to make comparisons when the builds are so different. But I can tell you what even with all your auras, our build will walk all over yours in both eHP and DPS. There is a reason why clusters are so popular now. ;p

Yeap clusters are super strong, can see up to almost 50% more damage from them.

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Elorathiel wrote:

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florian59300 wrote:

to @Elorathiel or @adriano447

pob seems kinda fucked so you take pride over flesh and stone + maim and aspect of the avian
does it scales better ?

ty for the help

Hi! Well, firstly. We don't have anywhere we can fit Avian because we aren't using a two-hand weapon and our rings are packed full with no room for avian so the point is immediately rendered moot. Secondly, we are not running Saqawals so no enhanced Avian or reduced mana reserved. Pride is just the better choice for us. I'd love to fit flesh and stone/maim AND pride but we just don't have points for the mana reservation.

so we take pride over flesh and stone/maim, Do you mind to explain quickly why ? ty

on a8 sirius i get why pride is better but on casual t16+ maps our zombies pretty much os every packs so the flat 30% from flesh and stone/maim isn't it better than the 19% ramping of pride ?

or as i said is it just because we already os everything in maps and pride is better for bossing in the end so qol ?

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Elorathiel wrote:

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Nchi wrote:

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Elorathiel wrote:

Hi! Well, firstly. We don't have anywhere we can fit Avian because we aren't using a two-hand weapon and our rings are packed full with no room for avian so the point is immediately rendered moot. Second point, we are not running Saqawals so no enhanced Avian. Pride is just the better choice for us. I'd love to fit flesh and stone/maim AND pride but we just don't have points for the mana reservation.

I got it all with like 7% left lol! AND should get 12 minions via level 34 zombies, NO CLUSTERS YET only level 88 and still might be able to get 1500 str maybe??? Just the level 4 empower for 12 and clusters might get 13 with those wall of muscles??

https://pastebin.com/Aj9vR60r

You're comparing apples to oranges, my man. We are running our cluster stacking build and you are running a 0 cluster old school build with the full aura wheel invested in. It's hard to make comparisons when the builds are so different. But I can tell you what even with all your auras, our build will walk all over yours in both eHP and DPS. There is a reason why clusters are so popular now. ;p

you probably missed that I was running low tier build as a point before, now I am opening up my build to clusters and 6L etc. Its all the same build in the end this is just pre clusters?

Here is where I am heading, 13 zom https://pastebin.com/n58scHWw
VMS makes up for losing that ES maybe? definitely will be more squishy I don't think the 5k armor itself goes far, 1k on MS and 3k on VMS

https://pastebin.com/qw4svwZ1 2.1 mil dps!!

I don't think its anything too crazy even yet!! See the light my friend. 13 zombies is back, I will just trade a ton of ES for no freeze off belt, if I had that gg rare belt then it would be easy!

More damage is stronger than increased damage.

Maim with Increased damage taken is one the same multiplier as vulnerability and many others like it. While Pride is a more damage taken.

Think it as of as this increased is X + X adding more increased just adds an X and more ix Y so that means you get (X+X)Y

Flesh and Stone with maim support is 30% increased
Vulnerability is 50% increase
war banner 11% increase
pride 19-39% more
So here we the increase here (30+11+50)x19=so 108% increased damage to taken 128% at full pride.

If its just pride vs flesh and stone you have in this example 11+50+30 vs (11+50)x 1.19 // 1.39. So you have 91% vs 71% to 84%
The more increase damage taken you have the better pride becomes.

Flesh with support does take 2 gemslots vs pprides 1 so that has to be taken into account as well.

There is "Increased #% Damage", "more #% damage", "Increased #% damage taken" and "More #% damage taken".

Pride is in the More damage taken category while Flesh is in the Increased #% damage taken category.

Good luck crafting that staff, they're literally like 25 exalts for a reason, because they're next to impossible to do. but the old 1,2,3 how do to it seems so easy right? LUL

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xj20x wrote:

Good luck crafting that staff, they're literally like 25 exalts for a reason, because they're next to impossible to do. but the old 1,2,3 how do to it seems so easy right? LUL

idk about the staff but i know i spent over 20k chrome just getting the color sockets right on the speedrun bow lol. vorici said it should have taken me 41 attempts with 2r1b recipe.....it was wrong

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damoose222 wrote:

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xj20x wrote:

Good luck crafting that staff, they're literally like 25 exalts for a reason, because they're next to impossible to do. but the old 1,2,3 how do to it seems so easy right? LUL

idk about the staff but i know i spent over 20k chrome just getting the color sockets right on the speedrun bow lol. vorici said it should have taken me 41 attempts with 2r1b recipe.....it was wrong

Yea bro, this build is cool and all but it got nurfed hard AF and the prices of the shit for it are insane because it's the most pop build top of list and the League takes major advantage, you can't do end game content with the budget equipment.