[3.10] Gryph's Volatile Dead Necromancer || Fun, Medium Budget, Tanky, Millions of DPS

Wouldn't crafting the staff and getting a watchers eye be really hard next league in 3.9 cause shaper and elder will be harder to farm?

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Messerschmitt wrote:

I feel like both myself and my computer are up to the task of taming this build. I've done CWC VD before which is okay but this seems to really take it up a notch and will do absolutely fine with the increased life pool of bosses especially when it comes to the Metamorph mechanic.

Without spell Cascade it's actually not TOO bad. Which is why I originally went with that method.

And yeah, damage is absurd. Never was worried about the DPS output. I did a 2-man HP Uber Elder in under 90 seconds with this--Which is basically instantly phasing him.

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TwiztidTragedy wrote:

Wouldn't crafting the staff and getting a watchers eye be really hard next league in 3.9 cause shaper and elder will be harder to farm?

Yes. Buuuuut, shaper influenced staves won't be that hard because the scarabs can be used for influence and boosted drop rates. iLvl needed is only 75 for level 20 CWC Support.

Watcher's Eye is superfluous and not a necessity to function.
The mana mod can be crafted onto jewelry which should be plenty and we have access to before that.

For ES on hit, see the gear section under boots. Fenemus Spinnerets give up to 20 ES on hit vs enemies affected by your Aspect of the Spider.

And Watcher's eyes WILL still be available anyways, they're just going to be a bit rarer is all. Overall I'm not too concerned.

I was also curious if you will be creating a leveling guide for the CWC version as well before the league drops tomorrow? Would be greatly appreciated!

I'm a big dummy and like to see things laid out before me.

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Messerschmitt wrote:

I was also curious if you will be creating a leveling guide for the CWC version as well before the league drops tomorrow? Would be greatly appreciated!

I'm a big dummy and like to see things laid out before me.

Page 44 has some stuff on it that you'll find useful. I'll work on adding it all into the leveling section though. I've just been answering the questions as they come. hehe.

I thought we can't get Cast while channeling staves anymore in 3.9 ? At least according to the manifesto. "Some modifiers no longer appear on Shaper or Elder items, like the "increased Physical Damage and Socketed Gems are Supported By" modifiers on Two Handed Weapons."

I could be totally wrong unless Cast while channeling is worded differently.

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b3nque wrote:

I thought we can't get Cast while channeling staves anymore in 3.9 ? At least according to the manifesto. "Some modifiers no longer appear on Shaper or Elder items, like the "increased Physical Damage and Socketed Gems are Supported By" modifiers on Two Handed Weapons."

I could be totally wrong unless Cast while channeling is worded differently.

CWC doesn't have a spell damage roll attached to it. Only the HYBRID Spell Damage+Support Gem mods were removed. This means PCOC and Arcane Surge can no longer roll, but CWC and Cast on Melee Kill will remain.

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b3nque wrote:

I thought we can't get Cast while channeling staves anymore in 3.9 ? At least according to the manifesto. "Some modifiers no longer appear on Shaper or Elder items, like the "increased Physical Damage and Socketed Gems are Supported By" modifiers on Two Handed Weapons."

I could be totally wrong unless Cast while channeling is worded differently.

* Hybrid Physical Damage and Support/Spell Damage and Support modifiers can no longer roll on two-handed weapons.

CwC is not a hybrid mod. It's just "Supported by cast while channeling."

Edit: Derp, already was answered. I'll just chime in to say love the guide. Going to use it as my league starter.

I just saw your 50c budget video and tried to mimic it. How did you get all those items only for 50c? Martyr is at least around 30c. Am I using the trade page wrong lol. Pretty sick build and I'd love to try!

I fear that it is not so great to use it as the league starter tho. Seems like some budget needs to be put in before you do some damage safely.

Since you said you used it as the starter, would you tell me how you progressed?

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Vheha wrote:

I just saw your 50c budget video and tried to mimic it. How did you get all those items only for 50c? Martyr is at least around 30c. Am I using the trade page wrong lol. Pretty sick build and I'd love to try!

I fear that it is not so great to use it as the league starter tho. Seems like some budget needs to be put in before you do some damage safely.

Since you said you used it as the starter, would you tell me how you progressed?

At the time of posting that video I was able to get that gear for under 50c. I think the Martyr ran me like 9c or so at the time. Later in the league (and not in standard) items get a lot cheaper.

As for a starter, it's not ideal. Honestly it's probably BEST as a second character or respecc. BUT it's certainly doable and a lot of people have showed interest in it and I successfully did it last league as my starter. I added a bit on league starting in the guide since you posted, I would encourage you to go there post this:

In 3.8, I leveled as VD, got lucky with day 1 drops and bought the first Scold's on the market. I was fully planning to play the "classical" VD style into early maps if needed though. Ultimately I did a ton of experimenting where I went from Self casting VD with Scold's generating corpses (did all content with this) until I decided the mobility of Cyclone was worth more than damage that I didn't need. Thus landing on CWC.

I did eventually level a HC version of this build much later in the league and was able to put together a nice tanky version for very little cost. But that was much later in the league when there was a bit of an abundance of items in the market.

Anyways, rambling over. Hope you find something in all of that to be helpful.

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Orion19819 wrote:

* Hybrid Physical Damage and Support/Spell Damage and Support modifiers can no longer roll on two-handed weapons.

CwC is not a hybrid mod. It's just "Supported by cast while channeling."

Edit: Derp, already was answered. I'll just chime in to say love the guide. Going to use it as my league starter.

I respond pretty fast when I'm online. Hahahaha.

That said: I added some stuff to the "League Starting as VD" section of the guide that I hope you all who ask about leveling tricks for this build will find useful. Mostly things I've already said in the comments. If I missed something, let me know.

Wow, thank you very much for a fast reply!

I will try this as my second character once I make some money with my starter.
This looks insanely fun + I recently upgraded my desktop so it should be fine xD