[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

I got around to trying out secrets of suffering, and it feels AMAZING.



I wouldn't do it early, as the loss of freeze as a defensive mechanic is certainly felt, but once above 10-11k ES it's an insane damage boost.

I'm currently at 740k average hit against sirus in PoB unflasked. I get 15% brittle on all enemies except wave 29/30 Omni/Kosis, where it caps out around 10% brittle.

I only need a 11-12% brittle to hit 100% crit chance unflasked, so I'll try to incorporate the trinity hybrid version and see how that works, if I can get a significant scorch in addition to a sufficient brittle.


Guardians and elderslayers die within 1, at most 2, rotations of their various invulnerability phases - Drox e.g. goes into his "force bubble"-mode before he drops his first banners and dies before he gets out. The Cortex-bosses don't get to cast any ability.


I haven't attempted the feared yet because last time, U-Atziri kicked my butt :(. Phys is really the only dangerous form of damage left.

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EF_Balduin wrote:

I got around to trying out secrets of suffering, and it feels AMAZING.
Phys is really the only dangerous form of damage left.

Couldn't you try to get minimum endu on rings and phys2ele on body & helm?

I already have pretty much permanent endurance charges through enduring composure.

Phys2Ele would be nice, but as those are prefixes, that makes crafting a) a bitch and b) sacrifices significant amounts of ES.
On the helmet, it also requires double influence, which will be pricy to craft unless you want to give up on %int from a hunter-helmet.

It's definitely an option though, if you manage to get phys2ele instead of a hybrid es prefix on the helmet. On chest, it requires an influenced chest, which would be better offensively (can have %int in addition to int, crafted %attributes suffixes), but not on an eater/exarch chest, where the 1% less damage taken per 230/220/210/200/190/180 int is. Even on the lowest roll, that is 11%+ less damage taken, which defensively beats out non-elevated phys as ele, and a 210+ roll beats out even elevated phys as ele on the chest, so I'll stick with that chest for now :). It's also a LOT cheaper to make :D.


For uber atziri, what apparently killed me was not my lack of phys res though, but my stupidity, as today I learned that Atziri has an inherit 2% reflected damage, and I went in there without reflect immunity. After switching to yugul and a random ring with 50% reduced reflected ele, the fight was relatively speaking a breeze compared to wave30 simulacrum, same with the feared - when every boss that doesn't dodge dies within 10 seconds, lots of fights aren't that hard :D

I've been out for a while.

What are the new crafting options for the endgame for this build?

I see we can get %dam per int on gloves. Is that in the game permanently?

Are there different cluster jewel approaches now?

Are we dps constrained or defense constrained at the very high end? What INT and ES target should we now aim for?

Thanks. No hurry on this -- just wanted to start prepping for 3.18.

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Graiaule wrote:

I've been out for a while.

What are the new crafting options for the endgame for this build?

I see we can get %dam per int on gloves. Is that in the game permanently?

Are there different cluster jewel approaches now?

Are we dps constrained or defense constrained at the very high end? What INT and ES target should we now aim for?

Thanks. No hurry on this -- just wanted to start prepping for 3.18.

%dam per int on gloves is permenent from the new Elder Ichors.

Cluster jewels seem the same, Cold to the Core priority 1.

We aren't really constrained by either anymore, make a self cast version of the WI for bosses and stay with Cyclone CwC for mapping.

Few other pieces crafted, need to level a scion now lol

How do you craft that amulet? I got lucky this league and found something similar for 15ex but I doubt that will happen next league.

hello, just wanted to say thank you for the inspiration. even if the prices for the "well geared" section are completely unaffordable for me, i found some compromises so that i could play almost every content.
Crafted most gear myself so its nowhere close to the best but still im happy for my first full league played.
Have a nice day and a blessed Leaguestart in 3.18

i am on xbox playing so far im loving the build. I've been playing mostly the classic version. I am hoping to try the cluster version before the league ends but honestly im still far away from being able to afford them lol. In fact im not even sure if i should even be worrying about them yet considering my gear is still kinda bad. Specifically my gloves and rings unfortunately there's not a whole lot i can do there as my gloves and rings are the only items that offer me any sort of resistance.

I've been trying to craft my own large cluster jewels but i've had terrible luck with trying to obtain 3 notables so far the closest i've come is one widespread destrution with cold to the core. regret not just hanging on to it as i haven't gotten anything remotely as good in 300 alts.

Can two notables if i even get cold to the core again with something else be sufficient or does it have to be 3 to properly function. I simply can't afford to buy them straight up.

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X Cholik X wrote:

i am on xbox playing so far im loving the build. I've been playing mostly the classic version. I am hoping to try the cluster version before the league ends but honestly im still far away from being able to afford them lol. In fact im not even sure if i should even be worrying about them yet considering my gear is still kinda bad. Specifically my gloves and rings unfortunately there's not a whole lot i can do there as my gloves and rings are the only items that offer me any sort of resistance.

I've been trying to craft my own large cluster jewels but i've had terrible luck with trying to obtain 3 notables so far the closest i've come is one widespread destrution with cold to the core. regret not just hanging on to it as i haven't gotten anything remotely as good in 300 alts.

Can two notables if i even get cold to the core again with something else be sufficient or does it have to be 3 to properly function. I simply can't afford to buy them straight up.

Two notables is fine as long as one is Cold to the Core. In fact, one of them HAS to be two (or don't put a point in the third) in order to get the max bonus from Split Personality.