[3.14] Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone

I see that you've invested in some crit multi but that seems very low. How much is your total? I bet you have a decent crit change but very low multi so Maligaro's would be a serious upgrade.

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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:

I see that you've invested in some crit multi but that seems very low. How much is your total? I bet you have a decent crit change but very low multi so Maligaro's would be a serious upgrade.

My crit chance is 8.74% according to path of building. and my crit multi is 212%. Also block chance is seen as 71%.

This is my path of building so you can check it out. Thanks for the help

https://pastebin.com/FmrztJaY


Edit: now I changed my gloves to Maligaro's which helped me immensely. you can now check out if I have sufficient crit multi.

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elvorfindra wrote:

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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:

I see that you've invested in some crit multi but that seems very low. How much is your total? I bet you have a decent crit change but very low multi so Maligaro's would be a serious upgrade.

My crit chance is 8.74% according to path of building. and my crit multi is 212%. Also block chance is seen as 71%.

This is my path of building so you can check it out. Thanks for the help

https://pastebin.com/FmrztJaY


Edit: now I changed my gloves to Maligaro's which helped me immensely. you can now check out if I have sufficient crit multi.

Hmm, not sure about Maligaro's. My char is already at 284% crit multi and about ~20% crit chance. If you finish the Fatal Blade nodes, you'd be at 257%. Not that far away from 300%.

With the linked PoB I'd focus on accuracy (hit chance) first, so maybe rare gloves with accuracy/life/resists and crit on rings could work better? Or keep Maligaro's and replace crit multi on jewellery...

Well your crit is not 8%, it's 16 because you didn't check the diamond flask. If you get a diamond of the order you'll get even more.

The idea is to focus on one thing and that is crit chance. That's why I recommend the Maligaro's. You don't need to get any crit multi. None at all. Just crit chance. Any multi you have is wasted.

Also make sure you have 100% chance to hit.

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kirjami wrote:

Hmm, not sure about Maligaro's. My char is already at 284% crit multi and about ~20% crit chance. If you finish the Fatal Blade nodes, you'd be at 257%. Not that far away from 300%.

With the linked PoB I'd focus on accuracy (hit chance) first, so maybe rare gloves with accuracy/life/resists and crit on rings could work better? Or keep Maligaro's and replace crit multi on jewellery...

You need some SERIOUSLY high end gloves to beat Maligaro's.

Remember that instead of all the crit multi you've been getting you could have gotten crit chance instead. When you're comparing Maligaro's to something else don't just say "I have 20% crit and 280 multi so I don't need Maligaros". That's because with Maligaro's you could have had 40% crit chance instead because you wouldn't need to get any multi. They even give you some crit themselves.

tl;dr Without Maligaro's you need both crit chance and crit multi. With them you only need crit chance. It's very hard to beat Maligaro's from a damage perspective. Of course you do lose life and possibly resists but the damage you get makes up for that.

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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:

You need some SERIOUSLY high end gloves to beat Maligaro's.

Sure, if you balance the rest of your gear around those gloves. I was just looking at elvorfindra and my current gear. Without changing a lot of other items, Maligaro's won't fit in. Sorry if that was misleading.

I also missed the difference beetween Saviour and Paradoxica. Unless you use both, it looks like there's a shift in importance of crit chance vs flat phys damage.

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kirjami wrote:

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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:

You need some SERIOUSLY high end gloves to beat Maligaro's.

Sure, if you balance the rest of your gear around those gloves. I was just looking at elvorfindra and my current gear. Without changing a lot of other items, Maligaro's won't fit in. Sorry if that was misleading.

I also missed the difference beetween Saviour and Paradoxica. Unless you use both, it looks like there's a shift in importance of crit chance vs flat phys damage.

Thank you for all of your help. In sum, while having Maligaro's (which was a huge dps boost by the way) I need to have more crit chance in my jewelry rather than crit multiplier and more accuracy to make my hit chance 100%. I decided to go with a rare sword with saviour but a paradoxica would be better you think?

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elvorfindra wrote:

I decided to go with a rare sword with saviour but a paradoxica would be better you think?

Me? No. Paradoxica is just the best sword I have. To be true, I started this build just because I found it (SSF issues). It's not even one of the suggested weapons anymore.

I'd suggest to stick to the orginal build. My suggestions are just about SSF and limited gear choices, or 'low budget' on trade :-)

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elvorfindra wrote:

Thank you for all of your help. In sum, while having Maligaro's (which was a huge dps boost by the way) I need to have more crit chance in my jewelry rather than crit multiplier and more accuracy to make my hit chance 100%. I decided to go with a rare sword with saviour but a paradoxica would be better you think?

You need to actually read your gear. Maligaro's makes your crit multi 300%. That's it! No matter how much you have on your gear you'll always have 300%. So don't get any multi on your gear, it's wasted. Get crit chance. Chance to hit 100% is important.

Paradoxica is good if you have a Saviour. It's not bad on its own either but a good rare is better (but more expensive). And you may need some block chance on one of your swords depending on your other gear so in this case you can't use the Paradoxica.

Thanks for the guide... can i check if Paradoxica+savior the BiS dps combi if we do not need block swords?

*nvm me i just saw the previous post.

Let me add here that rare swords (and Paradoxica) can have chance to impale so if you're not already at 100%, that might be better than more Pdps.