[3.11]QUEEN OF NECROMANCY - STRONGEST ZOMBIES EVER? 55M+ DPS 7K+ LIFE MAX BLOCK 90% CHAOS RES

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4pointt0 wrote:

Thank you so much for all the help forreal. do is replacing brutality support with spirit offering better? like overall damage

Nah Spirit Offering is... well an Offering that goes along with your Zombie Link. What I say is that Spirit Offering give Extra Chaos Damage to your zombies, BUT Brutality Support negate that buff (it's says "Deal no chaos damage"), so if you use Spirit Offering, you have to replace Brutality with something else such as Minion Damage Support, Melee Phys Support, Deathmark Support, Meat Shield Support, Feeding Frenzy Support, etc.

If you don't go Spirit Offering, then you can keep Brutality in your zombie link like it is. Depends which offering you choose between Spirit, Flesh and Bone offering.

Flesh Offering + Brutality gives more damage (a bit), but the extra chaos damage might (very might) be usefull sometime such as Monsters with extra chaos resistance or big bosses, but it's still not a big boost.

I personally run Flesh Offering with Brutality on.

thank man forreal a huge help. so i was thinking that spirit offering or whatever i choose to use had to be linked to my zombies but it doesn't one last question Is there anything else i can use besides cyclone? i just came from a imapale cyclone build and im tired of spinning lol so is there anything else i can use besides cyclone linked to my flesh offering and life on hit ect?


i just feel so slow when i spin also i wanna just be able to leap around and not have to spin lol but it only activates when i spin? i just wish there was something else i could link instead of cyclone so that way i could just speed threw maps and what not

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4pointt0 wrote:

thank man forreal a huge help. so i was thinking that spirit offering or whatever i choose to use had to be linked to my zombies but it doesn't one last question Is there anything else i can use besides cyclone? i just came from a imapale cyclone build and im tired of spinning lol so is there anything else i can use besides cyclone linked to my flesh offering and life on hit ect?

A lot of Spectre players use Ball Lightning to apply EE, Curse, etc. instead of Cyclone. In our case, we zombiemancers, were using Cyclone cause it was the best way to spam Spirit Offering in a automated way all the time while still moving (and so, keeping us alive. Thanks god for Delve lol). I've played ball lightning on spectre once, it was running fine, cause it has good AoE, especially if you link it with Greater Projectile and Faster Projectile, you hit everything in front of you quickly. So for curses, EE proc, anything that need to hit the ennemy it's good.
But, you have to stop to cast it.... So for Life Gain on Hit it's not really nice (for bosses maybe, but for mapping it's kind of rippy with Delirium sh** exploding everywhere ^^), but I don't see anything better then Cyclone for that, sadly...

For Leap, you link you Life Gain on Hit to it. With Vulnerability curse glove, you'll curse ennemies aswell when leap slamming them. It's faster then Cyclone and well it's not spin-to-win but leap-to-win ^^ But Offering, needs to be cast manually then : Desecreat then Offering, or with a CWDT lvl 1 setup, but it might not be up 100% of the time.

You can maybe run a Divine Ire + CwC + Desecrate + Flesh Offering to cast Offering, but you have to stop once every couple seconds to channel and proc the offering. I don't know if it's better then Cyclone then lol.

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4pointt0 wrote:

thank man forreal a huge help. so i was thinking that spirit offering or whatever i choose to use had to be linked to my zombies but it doesn't one last question Is there anything else i can use besides cyclone? i just came from a imapale cyclone build and im tired of spinning lol so is there anything else i can use besides cyclone linked to my flesh offering and life on hit ect?

A lot of Spectre players use Ball Lightning to apply EE, Curse, etc. instead of Cyclone. In our case, we zombiemancers, were using Cyclone cause it was the best way to spam Spirit Offering in a automated way all the time while still moving (and so, keeping us alive. Thanks god for Delve lol). I've played ball lightning on spectre once, it was running fine, cause it has good AoE, especially if you link it with Greater Projectile and Faster Projectile, you hit everything in front of you quickly. So for curses, EE proc, anything that need to hit the ennemy it's good.
But, you have to stop to cast it.... So for Life Gain on Hit it's not really nice (for bosses maybe, but for mapping it's kind of rippy with Delirium sh** exploding everywhere ^^), but I don't see anything better then Cyclone for that, sadly...

For Leap, you link you Life Gain on Hit to it. With Vulnerability curse glove, you'll curse ennemies aswell when leap slamming them. It's faster then Cyclone and well it's not spin-to-win but leap-to-win ^^ But Offering, needs to be cast manually then : Desecreat then Offering, or with a CWDT lvl 1 setup, but it might not be up 100% of the time.

You can maybe run a Divine Ire + CwC + Desecrate + Flesh Offering to cast Offering, but you have to stop once every couple seconds to channel and proc the offering. I don't know if it's better then Cyclone then lol.

I'll just use cyclone lol seems like a lot to do without lol but my leapslam is linked to my auras in my chest as pob says is that correct? thanks again for all ur help

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4pointt0 wrote:

I'll just use cyclone lol seems like a lot to do without lol but my leapslam is linked to my auras in my chest as pob says is that correct? thanks again for all ur help

Doesn't matter. It matter if Maim Support (cause you Maim mobs on leap/hit) / Life Gain on Hit (cause you gain life on leap/hit) is linked to Leap Slam, but you can run your Leap Slam in an Unset Ring if you want that doesn't matter that much. You can put auras and leap anywhere.

Key things to follow tho are :

Dread Banner <-> Generosity
Flesh & Stone <-> Maim
Golem/Holy Relic <-> Feeding Frenzy

The others gems are kind of "put them where you can"

If you have
Leap Slam <-> Flesh & Stone <-> Maim <-> Life Gain on Hit that's nice.

thanks alot bro also just done my 4th acesnt thingy lol is bone armor best choice? i was kinda looking for damage but it seems decent for tankiness

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4pointt0 wrote:

thanks alot bro also just done my 4th acesnt thingy lol is bone armor best choice? i was kinda looking for damage but it seems decent for tankiness

Bone Barrier is very good (phys dmg reduct, Bone armour, etc.) in my case this is what's mostly keeping me alive in Delirium lol.

Possible options :
Essence Glouton -> Mainly give ES regen while Cyloning (the CwC auto spawn corpses with Desecreate)
Plaguebringer -> Minion AoE, 10% Minion Damage, Ennemies deal less damage while cycloning
Mistress Sacrifice -> Usefull if using Bone Offering for Block Chance, but it's a bit poor
Bone Barrier -> Huge defensive stuff such as 20% Life Regen, 10% Phys Dmg Reduction, Minion Life and the "avoid one shot" Bone Armour skill ^^ that stack with Vaal Molten Shell for a juicy 8k shield minimum up to a crazy high amount (just sayin ^^)

For offense I guess it's Plaguebringer, but you need the Cyclone + CwC + Desecrate + Offering setup for this to work.

For defense Bone Barrier > Essence Glouton (if already a nice ES pool, like maybe 2k+ ES) > Mistress of Sacrifice (if using Bone Offering)

Update for any HC players out there!

Just hit 86. Moving into yellow maps now (still finishing out the bottom half my atlas first)

My damage feels amazing but I do still tend to get hit pretty hard. I am working on stacking more armor and mitigation. I switched my Cyclone CWC setup to casting Molten Shell but I do not like how that shares a CD with my bone armor and CWDT IC setup (I switched IC to Enfeeble) so I dunno if I'm going to keep doing it - the duration is pretty low on molten shell.

Here's my current.



Still going with Minion damage over Impale mainly because I still need to use Purity and can't use Dread banner (no reduced reservation nodes) I think MD is more DPS without banner but I haven't tested it out in PoBing yet

Currently running Carrion Golem, AG, and Specs all on the same link with BM. I should probably move the golem to a FF link, but I just haven't yet.

I am going to finish up some life nodes on the tree but after that, I will pick up Sanctum of Thought and Soul of Steel for more defense.

Here's my current tree



Any suggestions are welcome.

Things I am still unclear on:

Why do we put FF on the golem?

Once I drop Purity of elements, will my zombies die more? I know minions resists aren't that great, won't they just die to AOE?

What's better to run, Flesh and Stone or Dread banner? I don't think I'll be able to use both since I don't have reduced nodes (don't plan to grab them either) and I'm using belly of the beast.

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Edzilla wrote:

"I switched my Cyclone CWC setup to casting Molten Shell but I do not like how that shares a CD with my bone armor and CWDT IC setup (I switched IC to Enfeeble) so I dunno if I'm going to keep doing it - the duration is pretty low on molten shell."

Why do we put FF on the golem?

Once I drop Purity of elements, will my zombies die more? I know minions resists aren't that great, won't they just die to AOE?

What's better to run, Flesh and Stone or Dread banner? I don't think I'll be able to use both since I don't have reduced nodes (don't plan to grab them either) and I'm using belly of the beast.

Glad to hear it's going well!

Using the Vaal part of Vaal Molten Shell stack with Bone Armour, so it doesn't burn the cooldown of Bone Armour. So you can alternate between Vaal Molten Shell and Bone Armour or use both at the same time for rippy situation (bosses, Legion, Delve encounters, etc.)

The golem liked to FF, will grant the Feeding Frenzy Buff, which means "While you have the Feeding Frenzy buff, all of your minions have 10% more minion damage, 10% increased movement speed, 10% increased attack speed, and 10% increased cast speed" (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Feeding_Frenzy_Support). And that buff applies to all minions nearby, no matter which minion proc it. And Carrion has a great AoE, so it proc'ing it all the time.

Usually if they have high HP pool (maybe ~40k+), and some basic resistances and damage reduction, they should be fine is most situation. You can still help them by using Bone armour (it applies to you AND your minions) and by using Convocation to regen their life.

If you don't use Impale Support in your zombie link, Dread Banner impale chance is really low, so it won't happen really often. So you're better with F&S + Maim then.

F&S + Maim adds a great flat buff to your zombies damage, cause it doesn't need to be slowly (depends on your impale chance) scaled up like Impale damage. So, might be more interesting for you then to get max damage potential on the first hit, instead of having maybe more damage, but after couple hits.

But, if you have a The Baron with Dread Banner helm enchant AND Impale Support, then Dread Banner is definitely the way to go.

i can't even run dread banner lol i need purity of elements lol. so should i take out impale since im not even using dread banner at all? i cant even carry the banner don\t have enough mana and i coudlnt afford the mana res jewels so i just run avian purity and pride


What is better for anoiment death or horde?