[3.11]QUEEN OF NECROMANCY - STRONGEST ZOMBIES EVER? 55M+ DPS 7K+ LIFE MAX BLOCK 90% CHAOS RES

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bex_HB wrote:

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hankinsohl wrote:

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Estreiher wrote:

What specter I should be using as my 5th one?

I'm running skellie version of this awesome build :)

I like:
2 Carnage Chieftains
2 Host Chieftains
1 Diabolist

... or, if for me, only 4 at all

2 carnage, 1 host, 1 diablo

I've been using 1 carnage, 1 host, 1 diablo, 1 ruins hellion

I feel like people sleep on ruins hellion but it's better than you'd think - he pulls aggro which causes enemies to re-target and usually die before they can, adds 10% increased dmg to minions, and causes enemies to deal 30% less damage to anyone that isn't the hellion!

I think dropping minion's taunt on hit (so it doesn't mess with hellion) and having him as only source of taunt is great.

If anyone knows any reason why hellion isn't great let me know because to me it seems well worth 1 spectre.

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hankinsohl wrote:

I didn't even realize that the Chayula kill had to be in maps... that one is kind of stupid; but serendipity is with me - I killed Chayula in a breach about a week ago.

The possessed beyond boss doesn't sound hard, especially if using Ending the Torment. Obviously this particular challenge and likely others such as the Vaal Omnitect kill will be far easier to accomplish given some sort of nice single target build - I usually roll a Tornado Shot toon for fun - and with that you can switch out to a single target skill and play Southbound shenanigans to get all manner of tricky kills done.

Yea you are right of course, I guess IF I get the RNG stuff like Chayula I will rethink the not going for 40/40 idea, but up to then I will not spend energy on doing any more than 36.

Hey Qlida when you edit/update your build could you make it obvious (eg: updated on xx/xx/xx) ? That d be a nice QoL improvement :)

I am running 2 chieftans for consistent frenzy charges, 1 ruin hellion (awesome) and 1 reanimator
http://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Reanimator
According to poedb he can
Compare it with http://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Diabolist

Ok switched back to necro. Got the jewel for 3 golems. Have paste bin active you listed. On the paste bin skills you only have 2 golems listed, Stone and Chaos. There isnt a third for carrion. Also the boots you have listed is plus 1 skele which we arent using. Can you please inform me of the 3rd golem gem?

tip for leveling guide

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Level 1-9
You will want to pick up summon raging spirits as soon as you get it as a quest reward. Furthermore you should be picking up enduring bond. You also want to link raging spirit with melee splash.

we not want more melee splash, we want infernal legion.
both 8lvl

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vadash wrote:

I am running 2 chieftans for consistent frenzy charges, 1 ruin hellion (awesome) and 1 reanimator
http://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Reanimator
According to poedb he can

Spoiler

Cursed Rare or Unique enemies deal 15% less Damage

Compare it with http://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Diabolist

They might be different, but remember all these databases are player generated and updated. Curses, including Enfeeble, were changed in 3.6, and I’m guessing PoEDB didn’t properly update for both monsters. Plus, enemy monster stats are not always equal to Spectre stats. I find it very unlikely (though not impossible) they cast different Enfeebles.

With that said, I haven’t used either, but I hear Diabolist is a fat lout who can’t keep up; Reanimator could be more in shape. I don’t know how exactly their casting differs, but PoEDB puts an 80% reduced cast speed of curses on Diabolist. Otherwise, according to PoEDB Diabolist has 240% hp and a haste-like buff it casts on a single target; Reanimator has 96% hp and Zombies (they will not scale with our stats).

I couldn’t say which is better. Reanimator may have better mobility and a higher uptime on Enfeeble; I don’t know. It certainly wouldn’t be worth it if the reduced hp kills him off though.

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Warbeast275 wrote:

Ok switched back to necro. Got the jewel for 3 golems. Have paste bin active you listed. On the paste bin skills you only have 2 golems listed, Stone and Chaos. There isnt a third for carrion. Also the boots you have listed is plus 1 skele which we arent using. Can you please inform me of the 3rd golem gem?

Thanks for installing Path of Building.
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The boots are used for the increased strength which helps out your primary offensive ability for this build - namely zombies.

With regard to not having a 3rd golem... I'm puzzled by this; a carrion golem supposedly has dps on par with another zombie so you'd think that this would be included. Golem buffs from 2 or more of the same type do not stack so summoning two chaos and one stone or summoning one chaos and two stone doesn't make sense...

As I'm not playing this variant and have no past experience with golem builds, my best guess is that you probably should include a carrion golem in your setup; but I'm not entirely confident in my response - hopefully someone who has experience with the golem setup can better answer your question.

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vegeto079 wrote:

I've been using 1 carnage, 1 host, 1 diablo, 1 ruins hellion

I feel like people sleep on ruins hellion but it's better than you'd think - he pulls aggro which causes enemies to re-target and usually die before they can, adds 10% increased dmg to minions, and causes enemies to deal 30% less damage to anyone that isn't the hellion!

I think dropping minion's taunt on hit (so it doesn't mess with hellion) and having him as only source of taunt is great.

If anyone knows any reason why hellion isn't great let me know because to me it seems well worth 1 spectre.

I was very skeptical that the hellion actually did taunt... after all that ability doesn't show up in the in-game corpse targeting information - and you'd think that if he did taunt often he'd die, at least every-so-often.

So I decided to test this - I summoned 4 hellions and went into a bunch of act 9/10 instances. The hellions do seem to use the HellionRallyingCry ability documented in POEDB every so often and this does seem to taunt.

This minion does seem much more worthwhile after my testing - with 5 minions available probably it's best to run 2 carnage, 1 host, 1 diabolist and 1 ruins.

With only 4, 2 carnage and 1 host seem to be canonical: the 4th spectre usually is either diabolist or ruins hellion.

what is needed to get 5 raised spectres?