[3.11]QUEEN OF NECROMANCY - STRONGEST ZOMBIES EVER? 55M+ DPS 7K+ LIFE MAX BLOCK 90% CHAOS RES

Lethal pride seeds that are NOT what we want:
14939
13500
14999
11182
16087
10201
17173
12751
11811
10260
16949
15510
15140
13935
10901
10223
14059
16212
16782
13285
16504



That you might want (5% str)
17371 (faith and steel, endurance, amplify, divine judgement)

14166 (devotion, light of divinity, divine fervour) i took this one in the end. not ideal but will do for now


As you can see this can be quite painful for your wallet
Do you think it's worth allocating the 2 points to get +1 power charge as it also gives me 5% strength?

Edit: Should point out that I also have 5% strength on another node, plus +20 strength, 10% fortify effect, and 4% life.

Last edited by Jegethy#1142 on Sep 16, 2019, 5:42:06 PM
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vegeto079 wrote:
Doing some math based on my build as I'm thinking about Soul Tether as well. Percentages are all that really matter.

stat rambling

Current stats:
501k dps/zombie, 1212 strength, 15 zombies
7.527m dps
7162 life & ehp
547 life regen [7.6% regen], 1432 [20% regen]

Switching to soul tether:
487k dps/zombie, 1045 strength, 14 zombies
6.825m dps (9.3% loss)
6609 life (7.7% loss), 803 ES, up to 7412 EHP (3.5% gain)
522 life regen [7.8% regen], 1321 leech [20% regen], overleech

Vaal pact & soul tether:
412k dps/zombie, 1095 strength, 14 zombies
5.767m dps (23.3% loss)
6687 life (6.6% loss), 800 ES, up to 7487 EHP (4.5% gain)
0 life regen, 2675 leech [40% regen]

Vaal pact & soul tether (less life nodes):
485k dps/zombie, 1095 strength, 14 zombies
6.824m dps (9.3% loss)
6042 life (15.6% loss), 768 ES, up to 6792 EHP (5.2% loss)
0 life regen, 2416 leech [40% regen], overleech

Vaal pact, soul tether, shapers touch, geofris & astrementis / no war banner:
445k dps/zombie, 1057 strength, 13 zombies
5.784m dps (23.2% loss)
5828 life (18.6% loss), 3244 ES, up to 9072 EHP (26.7% gain)
0 life regen, 2331 leech [40% regen], overleech

Shapers touch, geofris & astrementis:
459k dps/zombie, 1201 strength, 14 zombies
6.426m dps (14.6% loss)
6960 life (2.8% loss), 3135 ES, 10095 EHP (40.9% gain)
362 ES regen [3.6% regen], 1382 leech [20% regen]


Looks like switching to shapers touch/geofris costs about 15% damage. Switching to shaper/geofri/vaal pact/soul tether is a total cost of about 23% damage. But as our survivability skyrockets it's probably well worth it, I'm likely going to make the swap.




Thanks man, idk how to correcty calculate PoB dps, so i love ur math!!

I was doing same tests... was using just astramentis + geofri's and 1,2k STR... changed to geofri's + soul tether + shaper's touch + astra and 1k STR, lost 1 zombi but gain much over leech and EHP was 6,9k goes to 8,9k...

so I think its worth!!

problably can do everything with this builds and got less death's!


I will use ur math to test another options (no soul tether, yes vaal pact etc!).
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Sorry for my poor english!!

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Shalenden wrote:
Lethal pride seeds that are NOT what we want:
14939
13500
14999
11182
16087
10201
17173
12751
11811
10260
16949
15510
15140
13935
10901
10223
14059
16212
16782
13285
16504



That you might want (5% str)
17371 (faith and steel, endurance, amplify, divine judgement)

14166 (devotion, light of divinity, divine fervour) i took this one in the end. not ideal but will do for now


As you can see this can be quite painful for your wallet

Aren't there 90,000 possible seeds or are most random in-range seeds impossible?
Last edited by hankinsohl#1231 on Sep 16, 2019, 5:35:51 PM
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Jegethy wrote:
Do you think it's worth allocating the 2 points to get +1 power charge as it also gives me 5% strength?



Yes, IMO it is always worth to spend 2 passives for 5% str. I did it too until I got me new Lethal Pride. I assume you have another 5% somewhere else? Because only 5% is really not worth stopping divining it. 10% is the absolute minimum you should stop on.
Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Sep 16, 2019, 5:38:27 PM
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Mecielle wrote:
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Jegethy wrote:
Do you think it's worth allocating the 2 points to get +1 power charge as it also gives me 5% strength?



Yes, IMO it is always worth to spend 2 passives for 5% str. I did it too until I got me new Lethal Pride. I assume you have another 5% somewhere else? Because only 5% is really not worth stopping divining it. 10% is the absolute minimum you should stop on.


Yes I do. I updated my post - I also have 5% strength on another node, plus +20 strength, 10% fortify effect, and 4% life.
One thing you guys are failing to calculate in your soul tether leeching conversations is that Necro gets 30% increased recovery rate of life. That makes the default max leech = to 26% of max life/second or up to 52% of life per second with Vaal Pact. Leech is very powerful with the Bone Barrier node for that reason.

Personally I'm using these gloves for my overleech.


The drawback is that each leech instance is cut by 50%. That hardly matters since we have so many minions beating on things. By default each minion can stack a leech instance that can restore up to 10% of your life. With my gloves each time a zombie hits something it can only restore 5% of my life... But I have 15 Zombies each hitting very quickly.
You're right, PoB does not calculate that life leech so I underestimated how much leech there is. I also slightly underestimated the dps loss due to not having 100% Avian flight buff which is an additional ~5% down. So it's something like 30% dps lost to have the huge leech and up to 9k EHP.

I could swap to the gloves to get more leech without having to go ES hybrid, but I like the idea of 9k ehp for one-shots.



I wonder if this is worth spending 3ex to 6socket+5link?
Since I have 77/76/76 res it should be about a 4% reduction to elemental damage. :)
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vegeto079 wrote:
You're right, PoB does not calculate that life leech so I underestimated how much leech there is. I also slightly underestimated the dps loss due to not having 100% Avian flight buff which is an additional ~5% down. So it's something like 30% dps lost to have the huge leech and up to 9k EHP.

I could swap to the gloves to get more leech without having to go ES hybrid, but I like the idea of 9k ehp for one-shots.



I wonder if this is worth spending 3ex to 6socket+5link?
Since I have 77/76/76 res it should be about a 4% reduction to elemental damage. :)


If you have the currency, yea. Worth it. And I bet you can always sell it for at least what you invest.

And just to say it again, it is not hard to get 8800+ EHP without going hybrid and without losing 30% damage. I know I am repeating myself, but still :D
Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Sep 16, 2019, 6:15:39 PM
@Mecielle

The only reason I haven't gone full in life tree like you run, is having enough mana for Flesh and Stone. In PoB, blood stance gives me 150k more dps per zombie. I'm finding it hard to give up the mana reserve nodes. Maybe I can look for a pride mana reserve helm enchant. I wouldn't have thought Blood Stance would make that big of a difference, but judging from PoB its massive. I have mostly incorporated your tree, and close to 7k life, with 792k per zombie dps. Your varation works very well, thanks.
Last edited by Smoknum#1968 on Sep 16, 2019, 7:24:55 PM

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