[3.21] Vatinas' Spiders + HoP Guardian - CI, 70K armour, 1400 ES on block, millions of DPS

Guys, help please. Sometimes I encounted super annoying issue - unkillable mobs in Expeditions. I just deal some damage first and then (at about 30-40% HP) I stop doint anything to them. When there is a single immune pack I can ignore it. But sometimes there are many, they outnumber me, stun lock or just kill. They are always some skeleton-like monsters with modifiers: cold immune or runic (or both). Weird thing is I should deal mainly poison damage, so cold damage should not matter. Also weird is I deal damage in the beginning and then I stop... It was super annoying when I couln't finish few expeditions because of it... Any ideas?
Hey,

Enjoying this build for the most part. Feeling some squishiness and damage drop-off entering T14 maps.

Also, is there a way to summon 20 spiders in a boss fight? I often find myself with no spiders, even though I'm running three writing jars.

What should I shuffle around here?

Thanks!

https://pastebin.com/3pTDgbkh
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Jack0o wrote:
Guys, help please. Sometimes I encounted super annoying issue - unkillable mobs in Expeditions. I just deal some damage first and then (at about 30-40% HP) I stop doint anything to them. When there is a single immune pack I can ignore it. But sometimes there are many, they outnumber me, stun lock or just kill. They are always some skeleton-like monsters with modifiers: cold immune or runic (or both). Weird thing is I should deal mainly poison damage, so cold damage should not matter. Also weird is I deal damage in the beginning and then I stop... It was super annoying when I couln't finish few expeditions because of it... Any ideas?


Maybe u picked 'Immune to Physical Damage' somewhere? It happens to with my necro too. I think the mods apply in the sequence of ur selection, not globally. Not sure though.
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Wraeclaster wrote:
Hey,

Enjoying this build for the most part. Feeling some squishiness and damage drop-off entering T14 maps.

Also, is there a way to summon 20 spiders in a boss fight? I often find myself with no spiders, even though I'm running three writing jars.

What should I shuffle around here?

Thanks!

https://pastebin.com/3pTDgbkh


Yep happens to me too. I think you have to desecrate as much as u can for corpses. It could be that you are not culling the mobs urself and ur sentinels are killing them or you dont have many corpses you are standing on when you do cull them.
during a boss fight, I found the best way to resummon spiders is as follows

1) Put Signal Prey on boss to keep the sentinels engaged

2) Run to a corner

3) Desecrate twice

4) pop writhing jar

5) Immediately spin and kill both spiders.

This will get you twenty spiders every time.

Note if you have a couple of spiders still alive, you can press x twice to get rid of them so that they don't mistakenly eat the worms.
Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge#5265 on Aug 14, 2021, 2:16:54 AM
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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:
during a boss fight, I found the best way to resummon spiders is as follows

1) Put Signal Prey on boss to keep the sentinels engaged

2) Run to a corner

3) Desecrate twice

4) pop writhing jar

5) Immediately spin and kill both spiders.

This will get you twenty spiders every time.

Note if you have a couple of spiders still alive, you can press x twice to get rid of them so that they don't mistakenly eat the worms.


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Hey there ! really good build, very detailed and a lot of efforts we're put into it ! However, i seem to not have found the part where you talk about an amulet upgrade. I have around 50 ex budget and wondering if a better amulet would be viable, like aul's or something. Thanks !
I am 65 leveling with dom blow + hop + relic+ carion golem and its the easiest lvling i ever done , wow !!

I am gathering the gear to transition but is hard prices are insane on playstation

I am really liking templar , is my first time

Andy , what is the pob i go for this league ? I am kinda confused

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I've been wondering lately... Why don't we use Herald of Agony instead of HoP? HoA deals poison damage. Wouldn't it synergize better with spiders and some poison buffs we might have?
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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:
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MsOtherName wrote:
Hey could someone spend 5mins and help me understand what i am doing wrong?

https://pastebin.com/rFpRxxur

I have several problems. I die to a lot of stuff. With buffs i am only at 6.1k ES right now. I barely deal any dmg. My cyclone stops pretty much all the time i am not sure why.

Distant memory boss for example just 1 hits me.


hello. I took a peak your your POB and I have some comments.

1) Your tree is a bit inefficient because you have to spend so many points going to Discord Artisan. You have two choices

a) keep that pathing and get the +1 to Sentinels on the helmet enchant (large DPS boost)
b) remove all those points and get the Herald of Purity reservation helmet enchantment. (all those points can be channeled into defense like ES)

If you decide to go with b), here is a tree you can use as a guide that is more efficient
https://pastebin.com/hEQYjgTD

2) The build does not require two writhing jars. You can safely replace one with a defensive flask of your choice

3) I can't understand why your cyclone is stopping. You don't have a mana issue. Does it stop when you are spinning in your hide out or only when you are fighting? You might be getting stunned if its during fighting but you should be block 3/4 of those any way... I need a little more information to give advice on this one

4) Your defenses look ok to me although you are under capped on cold. When you get a chance, make sure you get that cold to 81. Your next point should be in Influence and that will help your over all defenses. You have an open jewel socket that you want to put a Watcher's Eye in. Look for the stat "Gain 10% of maximum mana as maximum ES while effected by Clarity" This will give you a nice chunk of ES.

5) If you get an Anomalous Impale Support you can increase your DPS because you won't need the Rotten Claws any more in the large cluster and it can then be replaced with something like Renewel or Feasting Fiends for more DPS


Thank you! I am going to try to adjust it.

My cyclone stops when i hit mobs pretty much. I dont think i really block that often and just get perma stunned.
I am just still worried that i get 1 shot. I tried hydra without any crazy mods. Her balls pretty much 100% 1 shot me instantly.

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