[3.21] Vatinas' Spiders + HoP Guardian - CI, 70K armour, 1400 ES on block, millions of DPS

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khoatv1993 wrote:
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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:
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Kadosh wrote:
Brothers, I saw that there is an official POB and another one with Impale. What would be the best option? If it's really the impalement, could you leave the correct POB here, please? Thanks and sorry for my English.


I liked the Impale version better. Higher DPS with same defenses.

Here is my version of the Impale build

https://pastebin.com/VVYsyzuK

Hi, i want to ask somethings about this version,
Are there any best suggestion for Flasks
I'm using this combination:


I don't think there is any one combination of flasks that is op. A lot is down to what you prefer.

I personally never play the game with out a Basalt flask which I use in place of the Quicksilver, but others prefer movement speed.
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thienvipga wrote:
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Westwood1121 wrote:
Try dropping the three from Redemption on the left.

Drop the Ancestral Knowledge node.

Pick up the four leading to Unnatural Calm.

Someone smarter than I can chime in.


First, thank for your help, im really appreciated.

I try to adjust follow your reply on pob, but the maximum ES it can get is about 6.7k , i think i must have to change the belt to carry some abyss..,

but im very noob with the boss mechanic, so i don't want to change the belt at all :(


I mentioned earlier that I am an extremely poor player when it comes to bossing. Like embarrassingly bad.

I don't use the Cyclopian coil belt and have no issues tanking boss damage in the game with this build.

Darkness enthroned is so cheap that IMO it is worth at least experimenting with. The build will feel much better for you when you get over 8k ES which is not too hard to do once you get some flat ES on some jewels, of which the Darkness Enthroned belt will help with.
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I personally never play the game with out a Basalt flask which I use in place of the Quicksilver, but others prefer movement speed
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Replace quartz with basalt + bleeding immunity + 90-100% armour.


For impale build you can follow my PoB (71k armour / 10.6K ES) :
https://pastebin.com/YLa4rEmC


For lower budget :
https://pastebin.com/FA5H4W4Z
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For impale build you can follow my PoB (71k armour / 10.6K ES) :
https://pastebin.com/YLa4rEmC


Hi dex, is your ES at 10.5k fully buffed? Asking because when i check my POB, it's showing 8k but i'm 10.3k in-game. I'm not sure if my POB settings are correct.

My pob for reference:
https://pastebin.com/siFr6rgV

- Ah nvm. I found out i didnt tick the right box for Discipline, now it's showing the correct amount.
Last edited by Szktel#7752 on Jun 8, 2021, 3:16:51 PM
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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:
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thienvipga wrote:
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Westwood1121 wrote:
Try dropping the three from Redemption on the left.

Drop the Ancestral Knowledge node.

Pick up the four leading to Unnatural Calm.

Someone smarter than I can chime in.


First, thank for your help, im really appreciated.

I try to adjust follow your reply on pob, but the maximum ES it can get is about 6.7k , i think i must have to change the belt to carry some abyss..,

but im very noob with the boss mechanic, so i don't want to change the belt at all :(


I mentioned earlier that I am an extremely poor player when it comes to bossing. Like embarrassingly bad.

I don't use the Cyclopian coil belt and have no issues tanking boss damage in the game with this build.

Darkness enthroned is so cheap that IMO it is worth at least experimenting with. The build will feel much better for you when you get over 8k ES which is not too hard to do once you get some flat ES on some jewels, of which the Darkness Enthroned belt will help with.


thanks i will try to use it once :d
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thienvipga wrote:

thanks i will try to use it once :d


And if you get any Harvest crafts, a common one is adding an implicit to jewels. I think every jewel I own, has some form of reduction or avoidance of an ailment. I still get hit with stuff now and then, but its really not that bad.
And the white guys says, I'll have a Coke then.
Last edited by Westwood1121#4481 on Jun 8, 2021, 2:58:04 PM
hiya, LOVING this build btw, great work on the guide

would anyone be willing to help me out ? i am unable to use
Herald of Purity. Determination, Flesh and Stone and Discipiline all at once
(or should i use only vaal Discipiline and not the actual aura?)

also my damage seems rather low, especially in red maps, i know i need better colors on the Skin of the Loyal but there are none on market this late in league

thankx in advance :)

PoB:
https://pastebin.com/mVdw1WvN
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dextrelame wrote:
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I personally never play the game with out a Basalt flask which I use in place of the Quicksilver, but others prefer movement speed
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Replace quartz with basalt + bleeding immunity + 90-100% armour.


For impale build you can follow my PoB (71k armour / 10.6K ES) :
https://pastebin.com/YLa4rEmC


For lower budget :
https://pastebin.com/FA5H4W4Z

I don't understand why we should use basalt because i see our Physic reduction damage is 90% and it's max, second i have the jew with corrupted blood not conflict so i dont use bleeding immune opt too.
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mad_man_moose wrote:
hiya, LOVING this build btw, great work on the guide

would anyone be willing to help me out ? i am unable to use
Herald of Purity. Determination, Flesh and Stone and Discipiline all at once
(or should i use only vaal Discipiline and not the actual aura?)

also my damage seems rather low, especially in red maps, i know i need better colors on the Skin of the Loyal but there are none on market this late in league

thankx in advance :)

PoB:
https://pastebin.com/mVdw1WvN


Reduced HoP Reservation in the helm.

Charisma anointment in the amulet.

R-R-R-B-B-G is 40c. That's the chest you're looking for.

And Enlighten as well tied to the auras to help with mana res.

That should be a start for yea.


edit: cluster jewels too. Get one with Rotten Claws. That will get your minions to impale.
And the white guys says, I'll have a Coke then.
Last edited by Westwood1121#4481 on Jun 9, 2021, 8:17:59 AM
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khoatv1993 wrote:
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dextrelame wrote:
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I personally never play the game with out a Basalt flask which I use in place of the Quicksilver, but others prefer movement speed
.

Replace quartz with basalt + bleeding immunity + 90-100% armour.


For impale build you can follow my PoB (71k armour / 10.6K ES) :
https://pastebin.com/YLa4rEmC


For lower budget :
https://pastebin.com/FA5H4W4Z

I don't understand why we should use basalt because i see our Physic reduction damage is 90% and it's max, second i have the jew with corrupted blood not conflict so i dont use bleeding immune opt too.


Armor's protection is not linear across incoming damage. The higher the incoming damage, the worse armor works. In POB, the default incoming damage is set to a small value, which makes armor look great for phy reduction.

You can alter the size of the incoming damage in the config window of POB. As you raise the incoming damage, you will watch your phy reduction drop.

The basalt flask is a flat 15% phy reduction no matter what the size of the incoming hit. So it is important to use for large one shots in which your armor performs poorly.

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Corrupted blood immunity only protects you from corrupted bleeding. You can still take normal bleeds. Our build is susceptible to DOT so having an easy clear of regular bleed via a flask is useful.
Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge#5265 on Jun 9, 2021, 9:33:17 AM

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