[3.25] Scourge Arrow Poison Prolif Pathfinder - Fast, tanky, fun to play

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thedeathbeam wrote:
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Rootsmann wrote:
Yes I also looked up no darkscorn poison SA and he's the only one above, by 12 depth, that's basically the same.

Anyway I'm not looking for the competition, I just wanted guidance from other builds and was happy to see myself upthere.

That is weird that you are not on the ladder... Is it because you did not played enough this build in delve? Maybe it's to prevent such case as yours that would skew the ladder, where most of the delving was done with another char and just a few node were done with the current char?

Edit: what is the 454 under the city node on your screenshot?


Probably low level combined with me doing the delve pretty late and not much and low playtime, I guess. I was on ladder with my necro (before I sold all its gear to pimp my poison char :d). But looking at the top delve guy, that solstice vigil looks lie very good idea with HH (and maybe with temp chains blasphemy/you could maybee fit in self curse).

the 454 is just my current sulphite :D


Ho right poeninja takes intoo account lvl 96-100 in the setting I found.

About Solstice vigil, at this point my amulette and one ring are just stat sticks for resistance and int. If I put one more unique (solstice) I won't be able to be capped.

Then for self curse, it means dropping the boots for Kaoms. That's completely abandoning the idea of having any resists.

You don't care about that because you are thinking in termes of deep delving where everything is one-shotting you anyway?
Thanks for the build guide. I have a question regarding the quiver. It looks like you need to hit it perfect with fossils to get a better one than a good rolled Drillneck?

I hit this today, life isnt that great and I am missing attack speed. The question is should I replace it with my Drillneck?

Spoiler

Rarity: Rare
Sorrow Shot
Two-Point Arrow Quiver
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Requirements:
Level: 44
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Item Level: 85
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29% increased Global Accuracy Rating
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Adds 4 to 10 Physical Damage to Attacks
+61 to maximum Life
39% increased Projectile Speed
39% increased Damage with Ailments
4% chance to gain a Frenzy Charge when you Hit a Rare or Unique Enemy
Adds 7 to 18 Chaos Damage to Attacks (crafted)


According to PoB its worse in terms of damage but the frenzy charge thing is red and not calculated? I am still kinda new to the game and started in September with this league, I have PoB set up according to the first Post.
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Rootsmann wrote:

Ho right poeninja takes intoo account lvl 96-100 in the setting I found.

About Solstice vigil, at this point my amulette and one ring are just stat sticks for resistance and int. If I put one more unique (solstice) I won't be able to be capped.

Then for self curse, it means dropping the boots for Kaoms. That's completely abandoning the idea of having any resists.

You don't care about that because you are thinking in termes of deep delving where everything is one-shotting you anyway?


Yeah I guess, its just some solid ideas imo, but losing res cap is def not worth it, I don't think you can really rely on never being hit with poison build anyway.

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konean wrote:
Thanks for the build guide. I have a question regarding the quiver. It looks like you need to hit it perfect with fossils to get a better one than a good rolled Drillneck?

I hit this today, life isnt that great and I am missing attack speed. The question is should I replace it with my Drillneck?

Spoiler

Rarity: Rare
Sorrow Shot
Two-Point Arrow Quiver
--------
Requirements:
Level: 44
--------
Item Level: 85
--------
29% increased Global Accuracy Rating
--------
Adds 4 to 10 Physical Damage to Attacks
+61 to maximum Life
39% increased Projectile Speed
39% increased Damage with Ailments
4% chance to gain a Frenzy Charge when you Hit a Rare or Unique Enemy
Adds 7 to 18 Chaos Damage to Attacks (crafted)


According to PoB its worse in terms of damage but the frenzy charge thing is red and not calculated? I am still kinda new to the game and started in September with this league, I have PoB set up according to the first Post.


Its very very hard to beat Drillneck, well, in theoretical DPS. But we are not trying to beat Drillneck in raw numbers. Rare frenzy quiver provides easy frenzy generation for single target, what will net more actual DPS (and its way more convenient than self-casting Frenzy). And ofc, rare quiver also provides more life.

Regarding your quiver, it looks pretty good, none of the stats are wasted (projectile speed is very nice for both Blink Arrow and Scourge Arrow pod spread, as thorn arrows fly further with more projectile speed).

And for the question about replacing it, it depends, if you are spending considerable amount of time on bosses (e.g your frenzy charges run out and are out for a while) then yeah, it is worth it for frenzy generation. Otherwise no, I wouldnt recommend upgrading Drillneck before reaching end-game (e.g at least guardians), so depends on your current progress.

EDIT:

For frenzy charge being red, yeah PoB do not supports it, but it doesnt matter as you most likely already have Frenzy charges checked in config section as you said you were following the main post PoB setup section.
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Last edited by thedeathbeam#7125 on Oct 24, 2019, 8:21:30 AM
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thedeathbeam wrote:
we are not trying to beat Drillneck in raw numbers.


Completely agreeing here.

To Konean:

Rares quivers offers more utility overall. Keep in mind that SA always pierce so if you don't have a good corruption on Drillneck, its implicit is useless. The 30% global accurracy from your rare quiver can allow you to cap hit chance with 2 lower levels on Precision, hence providing a bit more freedom on mana reservation and -mana cost on jewellery. Imagine hitting 90+ life on the quiver and that's now two slots on jewellery saved (-mana cost and life). So don't just look at DPS number when crafting your quiver, think utility and flexible customization tool.

Edit: don't look at my jewellery to compare, the ring is a 10c place holder since a recent switch in gear and will be replaced with a good one soon.
Last edited by Rootsmann#7961 on Oct 24, 2019, 9:04:51 AM
Ah, okay. This now makes alot of sense. Thank you for the explanation. For example checking PoB with the rare quiver I can cut down the reserved mana cost from Precision from 142 to 59 while still having caped Accuracy.
Hello.
Anyway to get the passive tree?don't have access to a pc right now ( playing on Xbox)
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Chukakiss wrote:
Hello.
Anyway to get the passive tree?don't have access to a pc right now ( playing on Xbox)


Hello.

Here is the passive tree exported from PoB: http://poeurl.com/cBMw
My builds:
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Last edited by thedeathbeam#7125 on Oct 25, 2019, 11:19:25 AM
I'm a little confused regarding the quiver crafting section. Your guide recommends using a two spiked quiver which provides global accuracy but around page 40 of this guide, it mostly talks about penetrating quiver for the pierce implicit. I'm just curious if I'm missing something since the pierce implicit seems invaluable especially since accuracy generally not a problem for dex chars.

Appreciate the guide. Loosely following for SSF and loving it. RIP my chance orbs trying to get a drillneck though
Last edited by dchin29#0247 on Oct 25, 2019, 7:22:34 PM
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dchin29 wrote:
I'm a little confused regarding the quiver crafting section. Your guide recommends using a two spiked quiver which provides global accuracy but around page 40 of this guide, it mostly talks about penetrating quiver for the pierce implicit. I'm just curious if I'm missing something since the pierce implicit seems invaluable especially since accuracy generally not a problem for dex chars.

Appreciate the guide. Loosely following for SSF and loving it. RIP my chance orbs trying to get a drillneck though


Yeah, the requirement of +1 pierce was mostly my mistake, after that I actually went and tested thorn arrows, and they pierce everything by default so there is no need to have any extra pierce. Glad you like the build :)
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Is there any reason 4 skippin King of the hill node?

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