[3.25] Scourge Arrow Poison Prolif Pathfinder - Fast, tanky, fun to play

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Baconade77 wrote:

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Cyander wrote:

Taste of hate was a good reminder, we could add one of the #% of physical damage taken as [element/chaos] from one conquerors to the Grasping Mail chestpiece. This should assist a lot, with taken as chaos obviously being most effective combined with Divine Flesh. A similar mod could be added to the helmet. These would both be endgame crafts, I'd assume.
Aside from that trying to get some source of Endurance charges should be good too, extra 12% physical damage reduction should be helpful. Enduring Composure was a good source, but atm there's not much room left for it.

However I have checked the effectiviness of these mods using your PoB, these mods on the helmet and chest armour + endurance charges + Taste of Hate, bring effective physical health pool from 32k to 82k. Which is a significant increase. Nice improvement on the elemental effective health pools btw.

I have been looking into Wind Dancer still, despite the damage taken increase. Wind Dancer's more evasion chance seems to offset the increase in damage taken. Though the notable is bugged in POB, still uses old Wind Dancer effect so you would have to add it in configuration as a custom effect.

What do you think?

I agree that the Phys as mods are a possibility. You lose your life roll on helmet, and would be an absolute pain to craft on chest but doable. I personally see the tradeoff of any of the currents flasks being swapped for Taste being worth it. There is too much lost for a slight gain in phys. As for endurance charges I thought the same thing, nice life regen, more res, phys reduction, great, but it's not something we can get realistically without dropping an anoint. Great ideas all around though! I didn't want to make drastic changes to the gear to keep it apples to apples as much as possible to deathbeam's POB, and hadn't even looked for those mods yet.

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Maddest_Scientist wrote:

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Baconade77 wrote:

I actually checked the math at one point. The Full DPS is assuming every arrow from your main attack+totem and their pods hits. This is obviously unlikely in most scenarios, but gives you an idea of the top DPS. This also assumes everything triggered like focus, infecting, 15 withered stacks, all curses active, blood rage active etc etc. Basically this is top dmg possible for a few seconds, which is fine as that is enough to kill most bosses below endgame.

A bigger reminder is the POB DPS is a lie for poison as it assumes that you are spamming attacks until your first poison runs out, which is never true in practice. You can see this in the calc page in the "number of poisons" which is used as a multiplier. I would advise people focus more on how much each instance of poison does with a fully charged scourge arrow.

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Taycent wrote:

Hows this build looking as a league starter so far? Do you think its worthwhile starting with it or should I try something else?

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Baconade77 wrote:

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Taycent wrote:

Hows this build looking as a league starter so far? Do you think its worthwhile starting with it or should I try something else?

Here is a super quick and dirty, reasonable expectation POB

https://pastebin.com/KymXkmvi

Assuming damage per totem+mirage archer, if my math is right this is about 2m DPS on a low, no ward stacking budget.

I know my str is scuffed but I just stole someone's gear from poe.ninja and made my changes. I would add the mega res bismuth flask and drop all res on gear for str and other needed stats.

Damage is good, survivability is meh, but with gear that is reasonable to get by day 3 it's something I'll likely consider and play as my league starter.

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zaxium wrote:

Yeah, I'm having a hard time deciding between this and toxic rain. Have you looked at running lioneye's paws boots to get a despair hextouch setup? You'd probably have to drop petrified blood because of the low life reduced ms on them?

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Baconade77 wrote:

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zaxium wrote:

Yeah, I'm having a hard time deciding between this and toxic rain. Have you looked at running lioneye's paws boots to get a despair hextouch setup? You'd probably have to drop petrified blood because of the low life reduced ms on them?

I can tell you TR is going to have an easier time gearing and leveling. In fact we level as TR with this build for most of the way through the game. I just like the smoothness and lower APM of SA in the end game.