[3.15] Broodmother: Summon Spiders Necro | THE NEW OP SUMMONER | 8m DPS | 11k EHP

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3ryk wrote:

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Vendetta wrote:

I was just saying that you have no zombies, as a meat shield :). If the tankiness is sufficient then you don't need them :). Was just asking about the tanking aspect.

%blind from jewel is alot i guess. the moment u lose spiders and need to resummon is the worst part of the build, i think sometimes u dont get spiders even bane clearly killed wurms.
personally i feel comfortable on clear waves/protect altar ultimatums, but when in other modes i usually do 4 or 5 waves, just when spiders are about to end.
also big part is what mobs are currently in your ultimatum. vs some its easy to get a second to resummon and vs some its pretty much impossible at least in my case :P

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Vendetta wrote:

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3ryk wrote:

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Vendetta wrote:

I was just saying that you have no zombies, as a meat shield :). If the tankiness is sufficient then you don't need them :). Was just asking about the tanking aspect.

%blind from jewel is alot i guess. the moment u lose spiders and need to resummon is the worst part of the build, i think sometimes u dont get spiders even bane clearly killed wurms.
personally i feel comfortable on clear waves/protect altar ultimatums, but when in other modes i usually do 4 or 5 waves, just when spiders are about to end.
also big part is what mobs are currently in your ultimatum. vs some its easy to get a second to resummon and vs some its pretty much impossible at least in my case :P

I feel you there...

I have some problems to address with this build, as we lack the zombies to actually meat everything.

1. Spectres are sometimes dying in ultimatums. I mean they die now and I didn't even hit maps. Those big dudes are like way too much damage.
2. Yes resumoning them in the middle of the ultimatum is crap, this is why I found a fix for this, I sometimes go out of the arena resumon them as they are busy killing the mobs :)).
3. I do not know how exactly how the diadem works eldritch battery and MOM , as you don't really have a lot of mana to justify the mom.


That's probably it, I don't see other issues so far. The damage is there.

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Vendetta wrote:

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3ryk wrote:

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Vendetta wrote:

I was just saying that you have no zombies, as a meat shield :). If the tankiness is sufficient then you don't need them :). Was just asking about the tanking aspect.

%blind from jewel is alot i guess. the moment u lose spiders and need to resummon is the worst part of the build, i think sometimes u dont get spiders even bane clearly killed wurms.
personally i feel comfortable on clear waves/protect altar ultimatums, but when in other modes i usually do 4 or 5 waves, just when spiders are about to end.
also big part is what mobs are currently in your ultimatum. vs some its easy to get a second to resummon and vs some its pretty much impossible at least in my case :P

I feel you there...

I have some problems to address with this build, as we lack the zombies to actually meat everything.

1. Spectres are sometimes dying in ultimatums. I mean they die now and I didn't even hit maps. Those big dudes are like way too much damage.
2. Yes resumoning them in the middle of the ultimatum is crap, this is why I found a fix for this, I sometimes go out of the arena resumon them as they are busy killing the mobs :)).
3. I do not know how exactly how the diadem works eldritch battery and MOM , as you don't really have a lot of mana to justify the mom.


That's probably it, I don't see other issues so far. The damage is there.

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Inkira wrote:

Your ES becomes Mana with Eldritch Batter and it makes Mind over Matter work as normal. I wouldn't use Specters at all this league, they die too quickly and summoning them again isn't worth the time you spend.

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FallenWingsX wrote:

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Inkira wrote:

Your ES becomes Mana with Eldritch Batter and it makes Mind over Matter work as normal. I wouldn't use Specters at all this league, they die too quickly and summoning them again isn't worth the time you spend.

How about moving Sprit Offering to an Unset Ring, make the Body Armour 4/2 link so our Specters can be linked with Minion Life - Life Tap - Meat Shield. This should make the apes be more tanky.

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Vendetta wrote:

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FallenWingsX wrote:

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Inkira wrote:

Your ES becomes Mana with Eldritch Batter and it makes Mind over Matter work as normal. I wouldn't use Specters at all this league, they die too quickly and summoning them again isn't worth the time you spend.

How about moving Sprit Offering to an Unset Ring, make the Body Armour 4/2 link so our Specters can be linked with Minion Life - Life Tap - Meat Shield. This should make the apes be more tanky.

Doesn't really matter how tanky they are, they get obliterated in ultimatums.

Ultimatum mechanic is not about life, but about good positioning and never getting hit actually. And the specters are just sitting ducks.

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MusicalMind wrote:

Aul's Uprising Onyx Amulet, this league 8ex cuz of delve nerf or wat?