Can someone more experienced take a look at my character and tell me what I can do to get stronger? Just switched over to Oro's and feel like my damage didn't really change. I am running t10 maps and I can probably do red maps but not as comfortable. Thanks!
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Posted bylamar2626#5897on Dec 28, 2022, 2:16:05 AM
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Have pretty much the same thing that I switched to oro's and I noticed that I do somewhat more dmg but still feels pretty weak at some point. Also looked at pob and realised I do like 50k total dmg and the guide pob does 450k. I'm kinda new to the game and don't know what to do. Could someone help me with this because I really want to use this build and I love flicker strikes.
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Posted byKiwipanda#1990on Dec 29, 2022, 2:29:05 PM
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lamar2626 wrote:
Can someone more experienced take a look at my character and tell me what I can do to get stronger? Just switched over to Oro's and feel like my damage didn't really change. I am running t10 maps and I can probably do red maps but not as comfortable. Thanks!
for one, you still have points in the "chance to gain frenzy charges" stuff. both sword and mark can be swapped to either move the points elsewhere or take more optimal choices for the mastery.
also, just personally speaking i don't even feel like even slotting frenzy in with an Oro's build. you shouldn't really have issues generating charges even on bosses. unless you are running some kinda map that impedes that (steal charges or avoid ailments)
speaking of gems, you can also just toss out the maim on ancestral protector, since you aren't really dealing phys damage anymore. swap it for ancestral warchief or sth.
another thing there is that your gems don't really have much in terms of quality. usually it's not a big dps gain for each one, but it does add up. flicker is good for leveling gems anyway, so not that hard to just sell your gems with a gemcutter prism and bring em back up (btw i noticed your 2nd weapon slot being empty, you should always have 6 gems leveling there at least. or this late into the league 9 with a maloney's. it's literally free money you are getting there for a couple button presses when they're ready to level)
secondly, you don't really have much in terms of +elemental damage with attacks on your gear (rolls on amulet, rings, belts).
also, annointment on amulet. anything cheap is better than nothing
also, as you are running soulthirst i wanna point out it's worth having a long duration flask(sorrow of the divine is easy to get a +50% duration one since its unique) and putting the increased duration enchant. grab the nearby natural remedies wheel for flask duration and maybe even fit in a cluster and you can be looking at 30-40s duration. while it is largely useless outside of running maps it's stupidly strong there. 30s is just about enough to get you through most league mechanics without having to refresh. just gotta respec a few points whenever you wanna focus on something that aint mapping, but while you are still leveling it's great to have and not much else on the skill tree is gonna give you any dps boost quite as strong
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HanimeGuru wrote:
Have pretty much the same thing that I switched to oro's and I noticed that I do somewhat more dmg but still feels pretty weak at some point. Also looked at pob and realised I do like 50k total dmg and the guide pob does 450k. I'm kinda new to the game and don't know what to do. Could someone help me with this because I really want to use this build and I love flicker strikes.
you have a lot of respeccing to do. your tree is vastly different from the one in the pob. including your ascendancy (plus you are missing uber lab)
especially since you are still running resolute technique.
fix that tree, do your uber lab and shift some of your gear more towards crit (easy points being just running a diamond flask and tossing in some crit multi jewels. also get assasins mark+mark on hit. btw overall work on getting your flasks sorted. have them all 20 quality and with prefix and suffix at least)
you can run oro's as a non-crit, but it's gonna be less dps and worse sustain (since crits force ignite, so your charge gen is better with crit)
try to get a better Oro's btw. yours is 778dps, while it can roll up to 833dps. not gonna be a huge dps increase but it's an easy one and without it being 6L a quite cheap one, even a 820dps+ will only cost a few Chaos
and same as above, quality up gems+have some leveling in 2nd weapon slot
btw your dps isn't quite as low as 50k. just a matter of configuring all the stuff in PoB to actually count. it's still gonna be more with a swap to proper crit tree
Last edited by Cash4Cookies#1266 on Dec 30, 2022, 7:33:06 AM
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Posted byCash4Cookies#1266on Dec 30, 2022, 5:06:48 AM
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Cash4Cookies wrote:
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lamar2626 wrote:
Can someone more experienced take a look at my character and tell me what I can do to get stronger? Just switched over to Oro's and feel like my damage didn't really change. I am running t10 maps and I can probably do red maps but not as comfortable. Thanks!
for one, you still have points in the "chance to gain frenzy charges" stuff. both sword and mark can be swapped to either move the points elsewhere or take more optimal choices for the mastery.
also, just personally speaking i don't even feel like even slotting frenzy in with an Oro's build. you shouldn't really have issues generating charges even on bosses. unless you are running some kinda map that impedes that (steal charges or avoid ailments)
speaking of gems, you can also just toss out the maim on ancestral protector, since you aren't really dealing phys damage anymore. swap it for ancestral warchief or sth.
another thing there is that your gems don't really have much in terms of quality. usually it's not a big dps gain for each one, but it does add up. flicker is good for leveling gems anyway, so not that hard to just sell your gems with a gemcutter prism and bring em back up (btw i noticed your 2nd weapon slot being empty, you should always have 6 gems leveling there at least. or this late into the league 9 with a maloney's. it's literally free money you are getting there for a couple button presses when they're ready to level)
secondly, you don't really have much in terms of +elemental damage with attacks on your gear (rolls on amulet, rings, belts).
also, annointment on amulet. anything cheap is better than nothing
also, as you are running soulthirst i wanna point out it's worth having a long duration flask(sorrow of the divine is easy to get a +50% duration one since its unique) and putting the increased duration enchant. grab the nearby natural remedies wheel for flask duration and maybe even fit in a cluster and you can be looking at 30-40s duration. while it is largely useless outside of running maps it's stupidly strong there. 30s is just about enough to get you through most league mechanics without having to refresh. just gotta respec a few points whenever you wanna focus on something that aint mapping, but while you are still leveling it's great to have and not much else on the skill tree is gonna give you any dps boost quite as strong
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HanimeGuru wrote:
Have pretty much the same thing that I switched to oro's and I noticed that I do somewhat more dmg but still feels pretty weak at some point. Also looked at pob and realised I do like 50k total dmg and the guide pob does 450k. I'm kinda new to the game and don't know what to do. Could someone help me with this because I really want to use this build and I love flicker strikes.
you have a lot of respeccing to do. your tree is vastly different from the one in the pob. including your ascendancy (plus you are missing uber lab)
especially since you are still running resolute technique.
fix that tree, do your uber lab and shift some of your gear more towards crit (easy points being just running a diamond flask and tossing in some crit multi jewels. also get assasins mark+mark on hit. btw overall work on getting your flasks sorted. have them all 20 quality and with prefix and suffix at least)
you can run oro's as a non-crit, but it's gonna be less dps and worse sustain (since crits force ignite, so your charge gen is better with crit)
try to get a better Oro's btw. yours is 778dps, while it can roll up to 833dps. not gonna be a huge dps increase but it's an easy one and without it being 6L a quite cheap one, even a 820dps+ will only cost a few Chaos
and same as above, quality up gems+have some leveling in 2nd weapon slot
btw your dps isn't quite as low as 50k. just a matter of configuring all the stuff in PoB to actually count. it's still gonna be more with a swap to proper crit tree
Thanks a ton for the help. Made most of the changes and my sheet damage has already gone up a ton.
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Posted bylamar2626#5897on Dec 30, 2022, 2:21:17 PM
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Hi,
Thanks a lot - loving your guide! Used it to play a HC charakter and it worked amazing. Loved the fact that you start using flicker strike so early and it really felt like jumping from one powerspyke to the next. I never really had mana-issues and the few times where it wasnt possible to sustain with frenzy stacks, the totem came in very handy.
All in all very smooth sailing from A1 to A10! <3
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Posted byBecks09#2158on Dec 31, 2022, 8:01:21 AM
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Cash4Cookies wrote:
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lamar2626 wrote:
Can someone more experienced take a look at my character and tell me what I can do to get stronger? Just switched over to Oro's and feel like my damage didn't really change. I am running t10 maps and I can probably do red maps but not as comfortable. Thanks!
for one, you still have points in the "chance to gain frenzy charges" stuff. both sword and mark can be swapped to either move the points elsewhere or take more optimal choices for the mastery.
also, just personally speaking i don't even feel like even slotting frenzy in with an Oro's build. you shouldn't really have issues generating charges even on bosses. unless you are running some kinda map that impedes that (steal charges or avoid ailments)
speaking of gems, you can also just toss out the maim on ancestral protector, since you aren't really dealing phys damage anymore. swap it for ancestral warchief or sth.
another thing there is that your gems don't really have much in terms of quality. usually it's not a big dps gain for each one, but it does add up. flicker is good for leveling gems anyway, so not that hard to just sell your gems with a gemcutter prism and bring em back up (btw i noticed your 2nd weapon slot being empty, you should always have 6 gems leveling there at least. or this late into the league 9 with a maloney's. it's literally free money you are getting there for a couple button presses when they're ready to level)
secondly, you don't really have much in terms of +elemental damage with attacks on your gear (rolls on amulet, rings, belts).
also, annointment on amulet. anything cheap is better than nothing
also, as you are running soulthirst i wanna point out it's worth having a long duration flask(sorrow of the divine is easy to get a +50% duration one since its unique) and putting the increased duration enchant. grab the nearby natural remedies wheel for flask duration and maybe even fit in a cluster and you can be looking at 30-40s duration. while it is largely useless outside of running maps it's stupidly strong there. 30s is just about enough to get you through most league mechanics without having to refresh. just gotta respec a few points whenever you wanna focus on something that aint mapping, but while you are still leveling it's great to have and not much else on the skill tree is gonna give you any dps boost quite as strong
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HanimeGuru wrote:
Have pretty much the same thing that I switched to oro's and I noticed that I do somewhat more dmg but still feels pretty weak at some point. Also looked at pob and realised I do like 50k total dmg and the guide pob does 450k. I'm kinda new to the game and don't know what to do. Could someone help me with this because I really want to use this build and I love flicker strikes.
you have a lot of respeccing to do. your tree is vastly different from the one in the pob. including your ascendancy (plus you are missing uber lab)
especially since you are still running resolute technique.
fix that tree, do your uber lab and shift some of your gear more towards crit (easy points being just running a diamond flask and tossing in some crit multi jewels. also get assasins mark+mark on hit. btw overall work on getting your flasks sorted. have them all 20 quality and with prefix and suffix at least)
you can run oro's as a non-crit, but it's gonna be less dps and worse sustain (since crits force ignite, so your charge gen is better with crit)
try to get a better Oro's btw. yours is 778dps, while it can roll up to 833dps. not gonna be a huge dps increase but it's an easy one and without it being 6L a quite cheap one, even a 820dps+ will only cost a few Chaos
and same as above, quality up gems+have some leveling in 2nd weapon slot
btw your dps isn't quite as low as 50k. just a matter of configuring all the stuff in PoB to actually count. it's still gonna be more with a swap to proper crit tree
I just want to make sure I understanded everything
Correct me if I'm wrong: I need to follow this pob https://pastebin.com/E00L2C6d
And also do these:
-lab
-better oro
-better flasks(not so sure how)
-respec
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Posted byKiwipanda#1990on Jan 2, 2023, 8:02:21 AM
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HanimeGuru wrote:
I just want to make sure I understanded everything
Correct me if I'm wrong: I need to follow this pob https://pastebin.com/E00L2C6d
And also do these:
-lab
-better oro
-better flasks(not so sure how)
-respec
yeah, normally speaking you can take some liberties with the passive tree to adjust it to personal preferences but as someone who is still only learning the basics of navigating the game and path of building it is probably better to stick with what you are given as closely as possible.
in terms of flasks. for one you wanna max the quality with glassblower (scouring the flask to normal quality means it only takes 4x glassblower for 20 quality, but they are cheap enough even if you don't scour them. can even buy em at npcs. they can be brought over 20% via syndicate craftbenches)
then bring em back to magic quality and alteration orb+augmentation orb or beastcrafting to get the stats you want. lastly you can use enkindling or instilling orbs as preferred. as mentioned, get one diamond flask if you are swapping to crit. you can also look into getting a cinderswallow urn flask (unique flask, drops from syndicate mastermind) since it synergizes with Oro's.
and to bring up the other stuff in a list:
-fit in a assassins mark+curse on hit
-quality up gems and then further work on corruptions to bring them above the normal maximum of 20. awakened gems in the long run, but probably mostly too expensive at this tage
-fill up any empty jewel sockets after you are done respeccing. (probably mostly with crit multi like in the pob. jewels can roll 3 different versions (melee/two-handed/global) with the prices varying depending on how many of them you got on the jewels. plus any other notable enough stats you may be missing, be that basic life% or stuff like corrupted blood can't be inflicted on you corruption
-get some crit stats on gear if you can (ring+amulet mostly is where you gonna be looking for these. don't skimp on the elemental attack damage tho)
-annoint amulet
-maybe fix that chaos resistance up a bit, doesn't need to be maxed but if its not negative it helps
Last edited by Cash4Cookies#1266 on Jan 2, 2023, 8:14:30 PM
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Posted byCash4Cookies#1266on Jan 2, 2023, 8:06:10 PM
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I'm using this build for Sanctum SC and are having issues with the flicker stopping after a couple of hits and not continuing for the duration of the entire ability. Also, doesn't always jump to the next mobs and just stops in place. Is there anything in particular that could be causing this?
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Posted byRhodriic#2962on Jan 3, 2023, 10:22:18 PM
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Rhodriic wrote:
I'm using this build for Sanctum SC and are having issues with the flicker stopping after a couple of hits and not continuing for the duration of the entire ability. Also, doesn't always jump to the next mobs and just stops in place. Is there anything in particular that could be causing this?
you need both mana (if not using lifetap) and frenzy charges. youre running out of one or the other.
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Posted byHollyphantom#4741on Jan 3, 2023, 11:19:18 PM
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Hollyphantom wrote:
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Rhodriic wrote:
I'm using this build for Sanctum SC and are having issues with the flicker stopping after a couple of hits and not continuing for the duration of the entire ability. Also, doesn't always jump to the next mobs and just stops in place. Is there anything in particular that could be causing this?
you need both mana (if not using lifetap) and frenzy charges. youre running out of one or the other.
Oh okay, well its not Mana so it has to be my frenzy charges then. Thanks
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Posted byRhodriic#2962on Jan 3, 2023, 11:24:41 PM
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