Code of Conduct Changes - Do better at least for optics

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

As far as semantics go, I define censorship as "a law against certain types of speech;" I define a law as "a rule backed by the credible threat of punitive action," and I define a government as "an entity that makes and enforces laws." So to me it's tautological that only governments censor.

However, where my view differs significantly from most is that I recognize far more governments than the "monotheistic" Godverment most people make of their national bureaucracy. I view myself as a government determining the rules of my house, and companies as having similar sovereignty over their own property — and neither of these governments are covered by the First Amendment.

I am very critical of the type of mindset that says certain bad things are only possible by government and thus private individuals or business entities cannot be perpetrators. Anarchocapitalists in particular often use such arguments, but in doing so they make government something quasi-mystical, as if a Constitution is somehow necessary to threaten other people into obeying a set of rules. A private corporation is more than capable of creating and enforcing law — this thread's topic is proof of concept.

Don't kid yourself into thinking the First Amendment effectively prohibits censorship in the US. All it does is prevent it at a federal and state level, passing that power down (in a manner similar to the 10th Amendment) to the thousands of (usually) smaller governments below them. The pressing issue here is that the Big Tech firms are starting to rival our elected government in terms of the very real political power they wield. Censorship is only the beginning.

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Turtledove wrote:

edit: Perhaps this is part of the sadness with this change? Who gets future bragging rights? If orange-face gets re-elected by a landslide in 2020 then we can agree that you won bragging rights and if orange-face loses in 2020 and faces criminal charges then the reverse. We just won't be able to exercise those bragging rights. :-D

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

I don't want my account banned on the off chance I decide to play PoE again

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

I don't want my account banned on the off chance I decide to play PoE again

It's my understanding that forum violations (outside of actual illegality) have a maximum penalty of indefinite probation. For instance, BMBI wasn't banned, merely perma-probated. Unless that policy has also changed, I believe you're worried over nothing.

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鬼殺し wrote:

No, you were right, TD. This is enjoyable. I'm struggling to remain gracious in victory-by-proxy but gosh, the wholeheartedness with which some of the people here are failing to grasp their futility in the face of this inevitable if not tardy change in acceptable behaviour in this community is...adorable. I can all but smell their swelling agency panic.

But I will continue to struggle, because I'm just a fighter like that.

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鬼殺し wrote:

No, you were right, TD. This is enjoyable. I'm struggling to remain gracious in victory-by-proxy but gosh, the wholeheartedness with which some of the people here are failing to grasp their futility in the face of this inevitable if not tardy change in acceptable behaviour in this community is...adorable. I can all but smell their swelling agency panic.

But I will continue to struggle, because I'm just a fighter like that.

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鬼殺し wrote:

I genuinely cannot believe you're the same person I recruited to moderate this forum and the in-game chat.

Please don't read that as an invitation to engage. Whoever you are now, I don't like you and I see no point in interacting with you. Just making an observation.

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鬼殺し wrote:

I lied. One last thing to say.

Everything you think you can't post now, in a broad sense, all the topics you're testing and pushing...I've provided you somewhere to post it and talk about it in a sensible manner, and I did it days before this hammer fell (completely by coincidence). You just have to work a little harder, make it worth people's time. Couch it in, OH NO, an actual fucking argument beyond whatever biased drivel you've found online on this site or that written or recorded by WhoFuckingCares.

The only difference is you benefit from hindsight and moderation when you start with a book.

I can't believe how slow some of you have been here. You act so smart, but all I see are smart-arses. 1984. Puh-lease.

NOW I'm out.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

I don't want my account banned on the off chance I decide to play PoE again

It's my understanding that forum violations (outside of actual illegality) have a maximum penalty of indefinite probation. For instance, BMBI wasn't banned, merely perma-probated. Unless that policy has also changed, I believe you're worried over nothing.