[3.11] YABB (Yet Another Bow Build) +5/+6 Ice Shot Chaingunner Delve 600+ Updated for 3.11

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m0gice wrote:

So I have everything shy of the Hatred crit jewel, and awakened supports, would you say I have enough to be using scourge arrow? Feels like single target isnt there much at all in the long run, but of course maybe I just dont have the levels or need the gems/jewel. Wanted to figure out what I'm doin wrong.

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mirlong wrote:

Don't waste your time with this build. I put about 30 ex into it and it absolutely sputters once you hit t14+ maps, and the single target is god awful even with barrage. With 50-60ex, level 95, etc, will this build wreck things? Sure, but really any build should at that point.

Playing this build you will die and lose xp constantly, want to put your fist through the monitor, and up selling everything like I did. Just stay away from this build, wasted a week trying to get it to work and it's just flat out not good enough and not worth the return on investment.

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mirlong wrote:

Don't waste your time with this build. I put about 30 ex into it and it absolutely sputters once you hit t14+ maps, and the single target is god awful even with barrage. With 50-60ex, level 95, etc, will this build wreck things? Sure, but really any build should at that point.

Playing this build you will die and lose xp constantly, want to put your fist through the monitor, and up selling everything like I did. Just stay away from this build, wasted a week trying to get it to work and it's just flat out not good enough and not worth the return on investment.

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Dragomirov wrote:

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SynixProcessing wrote:

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KiyanCorider wrote:

Question, have you tried the new Unique "Fury Valve"??

it seems to work really well with the Chain and clears off screen for me, Granted I am only lvl 62

but it seems to clear faster than Gloomfang (and deal more damage)

It won't do more damage by far, at max chain gloomfang makes up something like 47% of your damage it's that much, but the extra proj helps if you ain't got a dying sun

You need to stop being ridiculous with your theoretical Gloomfang dps. Your whole build is based on the assumption that there will be enough trash to get a 5/6 chain and magically the last one should end up on the boss/metamorph. In reality except when you pop a Legion pylon all mobs on screen are dead after 2 chains max.
The clearing of this build is already godlike without Gloomfang so the amulet barely improves it. On single target where the build is clearly lacking it does nothing. I understand you want to get more views for your YouTube channel, but you won't get them with a silly inflated theoretical dps nobody is going to believe and without addressing the numerous complaints and issues of your builds raised before. So far you have ignored most of the comments regarding your build's bossing and survivability issues. You'll get more views with intellectual honesty and improvements.

This new amulet is not a bad suggestion, 2 more projectiles in an Ice Shot/barrage support setup is like +28% more dps (going from 7 projectiles to 9). Also to be considered is the Pandemonium someone already mentioned, the 20% cold penetration on bosses is a great dps boost as it doesn't get reduced like an Elemental Weakness curse would (bosses reduce effects of curses, therefore applying elem penetration via curse is useless, as you need it only on bosses).
Talking about curses, same issue with the logic of tying Assassin's Mark to a curse on hit via Frostbomb. You will only end up using it on bosses where the curse won't add that much. I'd rather put Assassin's Mark as an autocast for T15/16 trash (blues and yellows) via gloves or rings. Frostbomb without anything supporting it on bosses as that's still a great help (not a curse).

You should add Vaal Haste to the build, only takes a single gem slot. Maybe link it with Vaal Grace that you already have and an Increased Duration support.
You can also add Precision aura. Link it with your Hatred and Herald of Ice auras with an Enlighten.
The Decoy Totem suggestion should have been picked up and studied (and not ignored like you did), we're dying way too much and any idea like this is good to explore. Even a 3s respite is great when you're gatling down the metamorph with IceShot-BarrageSupport.

Regarding movement skill as most I was fed up with Blink Arrow's bugs (going off only half of the time even when selecting "always attack without moving"), switched to Smoke Mines, I couldn't recommend it enough. Yes you need to press another button to detonate, but you can essentially do it near simultaneously. Same teleport range as Blink Arrow, a tiny cooldown (less that flame dash), 3 charges, gives you a nice lasting movement speed buff, leaves blinding smoke, can be prepositioned for smart plays (place one behind you before going to explore a corner of the map then TP back to it; preplace where you will want to TP as soon as the metamorph looks at you in a nasty way).

Then some other aspects of the build make me think you haven't really done your researched or looked at the mechanics in detail.
+Life on Hit ring: unnecessary. Even when clearing a whole screen I don't need it to counterbalance Gloomfang. If you check it in PoB it will also represent a tiny portion of your lifesteal. The life steal it gives is anyway capped by the Max recovery per second from life leech, which you haven't raised by not taking Vaal Pact. Vaal Pact itself doubles your lifesteal and does way more than the ring.
For the same reason the last two nodes of the Claw wheel don't add much to the build. All the Leech it's supposed to give doesn't exist: it's capped by the game to a super low level unless you take Vaal Pact. Your PoB clearly indicates these nodes gives you 0 leech. A bit of mana, but you could already fill all your Life/Mana leech needs by Vaal Pact and the small Life/Mana Leech passive just below it.
Lioneye's Fall and the Claw wheel: overrated. Between the number of passives necessary to get the socket, and the passives for the Claw wheel, that's 10 points you're using to only give you 19% dps (according to your own PoB, in the Single Target setup). With 10 points of passive you could continue the path above Heart of Oak to take Ballistic Mastery, Aspect of the Eagle, go via attackspeed/critchance to Aspect of the Lynx, then Weapon Artistry. 10 points, 19% dps as well (once again according to your own PoB setup), but on top of this you also get a shitton of attributes, some life, 12% movement speed.
If you want pure dps you can also take the 3 points to Farsight. That's +8% dps in 3 points vs your +19% in 10 points. I would also go and take Forces of Nature for some elem penetration on bosses and Revenge of the Hunted for some life+evasion.

All in all, plenty of improvements are possible. Looking forward to see you address those issues!

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Dragomirov wrote:

You need to stop being ridiculous with your theoretical Gloomfang dps. Your whole build is based on the assumption that there will be enough trash to get a 5/6 chain and magically the last one should end up on the boss/metamorph. In reality except when you pop a Legion pylon all mobs on screen are dead after 2 chains max.
The clearing of this build is already godlike without Gloomfang so the amulet barely improves it. On single target where the build is clearly lacking it does nothing. I understand you want to get more views for your YouTube channel, but you won't get them with a silly inflated theoretical dps nobody is going to believe and without addressing the numerous complaints and issues of your builds raised before. So far you have ignored most of the comments regarding your build's bossing and survivability issues. You'll get more views with intellectual honesty and improvements.

This new amulet is not a bad suggestion, 2 more projectiles in an Ice Shot/barrage support setup is like +28% more dps (going from 7 projectiles to 9). Also to be considered is the Pandemonium someone already mentioned, the 20% cold penetration on bosses is a great dps boost as it doesn't get reduced like an Elemental Weakness curse would (bosses reduce effects of curses, therefore applying elem penetration via curse is useless, as you need it only on bosses).
Talking about curses, same issue with the logic of tying Assassin's Mark to a curse on hit via Frostbomb. You will only end up using it on bosses where the curse won't add that much. I'd rather put Assassin's Mark as an autocast for T15/16 trash (blues and yellows) via gloves or rings. Frostbomb without anything supporting it on bosses as that's still a great help (not a curse).

You should add Vaal Haste to the build, only takes a single gem slot. Maybe link it with Vaal Grace that you already have and an Increased Duration support.
You can also add Precision aura. Link it with your Hatred and Herald of Ice auras with an Enlighten.
The Decoy Totem suggestion should have been picked up and studied (and not ignored like you did), we're dying way too much and any idea like this is good to explore. Even a 3s respite is great when you're gatling down the metamorph with IceShot-BarrageSupport.

Regarding movement skill as most I was fed up with Blink Arrow's bugs (going off only half of the time even when selecting "always attack without moving"), switched to Smoke Mines, I couldn't recommend it enough. Yes you need to press another button to detonate, but you can essentially do it near simultaneously. Same teleport range as Blink Arrow, a tiny cooldown (less that flame dash), 3 charges, gives you a nice lasting movement speed buff, leaves blinding smoke, can be prepositioned for smart plays (place one behind you before going to explore a corner of the map then TP back to it; preplace where you will want to TP as soon as the metamorph looks at you in a nasty way).

Then some other aspects of the build make me think you haven't really done your researched or looked at the mechanics in detail.
+Life on Hit ring: unnecessary. Even when clearing a whole screen I don't need it to counterbalance Gloomfang. If you check it in PoB it will also represent a tiny portion of your lifesteal. The life steal it gives is anyway capped by the Max recovery per second from life leech, which you haven't raised by not taking Vaal Pact. Vaal Pact itself doubles your lifesteal and does way more than the ring.
For the same reason the last two nodes of the Claw wheel don't add much to the build. All the Leech it's supposed to give doesn't exist: it's capped by the game to a super low level unless you take Vaal Pact. Your PoB clearly indicates these nodes gives you 0 leech. A bit of mana, but you could already fill all your Life/Mana leech needs by Vaal Pact and the small Life/Mana Leech passive just below it.
Lioneye's Fall and the Claw wheel: overrated. Between the number of passives necessary to get the socket, and the passives for the Claw wheel, that's 10 points you're using to only give you 19% dps (according to your own PoB, in the Single Target setup). With 10 points of passive you could continue the path above Heart of Oak to take Ballistic Mastery, Aspect of the Eagle, go via attackspeed/critchance to Aspect of the Lynx, then Weapon Artistry. 10 points, 19% dps as well (once again according to your own PoB setup), but on top of this you also get a shitton of attributes, some life, 12% movement speed.
If you want pure dps you can also take the 3 points to Farsight. That's +8% dps in 3 points vs your +19% in 10 points. I would also go and take Forces of Nature for some elem penetration on bosses and Revenge of the Hunted for some life+evasion.

All in all, plenty of improvements are possible. Looking forward to see you address those issues!

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Life Gain on Hit is a support gem. For every hit made using an attack supported by this gem, you will gain the listed amount of life instantly. The life gain is applied for every hit, not every attack - an arrow that pierces three enemies will cause the attacker to gain life for each of the three enemies that is hit.

The effect of this gem will stack with other sources of life gain on hit.

This gem should not be confused with the

Life Leech Support
gem, which also works with spells and causes the life to be recovered over time.