r/Games

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/b7ubwm/rgames_is_closed_for_april_fools_find_out_why_in/

https://imgur.com/a/umrdBYF

nothing new right...
will be interesting to see how this will evolve over the next 10 years

Any predictions?

Quite pessimistic about the gaming community when it comes to discrimination. Tons of decent people but the loud ones are sometimes super hard to bear.

Especially as people would constantly shout stuff like "libtard" at me for trying to put forward a differentiated oppinion, "gay" for liking things that are not "male", etc.

I mean, nowadays I am staying away from chats of all kinds, be it twitch or global chat. I just stopped.
Last edited by Im2sl0w on Apr 1, 2019, 11:42:35 AM
Last bumped on Apr 4, 2019, 8:31:15 AM
Hey mate.

The force is strong in this one.

I'll paste the post:

"
Not April Fool’s.
This April Fool’s, we decided to take things a little more seriously and shed some light on a growing, pervasive issue that has affected the community of r/Games and gaming communities as a whole. In recent times, it’s come to our attention that what has been intended to be a forum for the potential spread of knowledge and involvement in video games has instead become a battleground of conflicting ideas. Ordinarily, this isn’t an issue; discussion by its very nature is certain to bring argument, but when that argument descends into vitriolic attacks between individuals on a regular basis with no chance at deescalation, that’s when, put simply, something’s got to give.

Though certain memes (such as “gamers rise up”) surrounding gaming are largely viewed as a humorous interpretation of a mindset, at the core of the humor is a set of very serious issues that affect all gaming enthusiasts. By showing disdain or outright rejecting minority and marginalized communities, we become more insular. In this, we lose out on the chance to not only show compassion to these people, but also the chance to grow our own community and diversify the demographics of those involved in it. Whether it’s misogyny, transphobia, homophobia, racism or a host of other discriminatory practices, now is the time to stymie the flow of regressive ideas and prevent them from ever becoming the norm.

At r/Games, our community is becoming increasingly responsible for perpetuating a significant amount of these combative and derogatory schools of thought. We remove those comments, we ban the perpetrators, but the issue still persists at a fundamental level: the notion that it’s okay or acceptable to ridicule and demonize traditionally disenfranchised and marginalized members in the gaming community. This is not just an issue in r/Games or on Reddit alone; this is an issue deeply embedded in the ranging depths of the internet, frequently in communities that center around the discussion of games.

What We See
Unfortunately, this inflammatory content is not an infrequent occurrence. The condescending, dismissive, vindictive and pessimistic attitudes we see in our day to day activity is troubling, especially when those interactions involve harassing or outright targeting regularly discriminated communities. It’s not uncommon for us to see the real issues surrounding these communities be trivialized, derided out of ignorance, or worse, for the sake of entertainment.

To that end, we want to show you, the community, what we mean by “what we see”. These are some of the more awful comments we see regarding transphobia, homophobia, islamophobia, racism, misogyny, pro-pedophilia/pro-rape, and vitriolic personal attacks against other users. These kinds of comments occur on a daily basis. We’ve compiled an entire album of examples of the horrible things people say on this subreddit. From bigotry to vitriol, this album merely scratches the surface of the magnitude of the problem.

In the interest of providing examples, we elected to remove the usernames from these comments; instead, our intent is to show the stark reality that we face on a daily basis in the overall effort to provide a welcoming and responsive community. Preventing the cultivation of bigotry means giving it no ground to go to, and as a whole leave only space for those who would respectfully participate. We must closely examine our own communities, in an effort to encourage acceptance and inclusion, to foster a healthy community in which we value empathy and respect.

Do Better; Be Better
Despite the strife that’s both within and caused by our community, there are a multitude of opportunities to prove that we can come together and be a more wholesome, accepting community that exists on a single core idea: enjoying and discussing video games together. Though the industry as a whole has suffered a great deal of trials and tribulations, we also are fortunate enough to be at a point in time in which there seem to be a glut of fantastic games, from major AAA titles down to near-anonymous indie projects that come out of nowhere.

So let’s revel in what’s available to us, and also appreciate the myriad of backgrounds that we as gamers come from. Our differences in experiences comprise the diversity in the content that we consume, and by allowing ourselves to appreciate those differences, we change our perspectives and interpretations; this applies not only in games, but life as a whole.

Let’s not let the good eggs go unnoticed, though: There are plenty of you who, as members of the community, want to take care of one another. Sometimes this means identifying when conversation becomes confrontation, when discussion gets out of hand and turns to name-calling, slurs or other degrading language. To you, we say thank you. You’re what keep us going, you’re who we want to see more of, and you’re everything that is the potential for a strong, open community for those who love and enjoy video games the way we do.

It’s also important to recognize the opportunities not afforded to everyone, as well as the resources available to give them a helping hand. So this April Fool’s, we’re also asking you to take into consideration the idea of helping these organizations out. These folks have made it their mission to represent and benefit those who still face their own challenges, obstacles and prejudices, and any assistance they can get is another step forward for their cause.

LGBT+ Charities:
The Trevor Project

Resource Center

Point Foundation

GLAD

Ali Forney Center

New Alternatives

International Lesbian and Gay Association Europe

Global Rights

POC-focused Charities:
National Civil Rights Museum

Center for Constitutional Rights

Sponsors for Educational Opportunity

Race Forward

Women’s health charities:
Planned Parenthood

Reproductive Health Access Project

Centre for Reproductive Rights

Support Line

Rainn

Additional Causes:
Able Gamers

Paws with a Cause

Child's Play

Out of the Closet Thrift Store

Life After Hate

Remember the human

- r/Games mod team


Not surprising that admin/mods would be reflecting hard after Christchurch, and I would think that catalysed stuff that was already of concern.

Global chat in-game can be funny, in a dumb way, I enjoy a good 200 word essay meme and there are some real wits in there, and also I have turned it off frequently because incel humour isn't edgy or open to debate, it's REEEEEEEpulsive.

Proposal: In global PoE have people's names colour-coded by someone discerning (me hahaha) - green for lovely person, blue for cool and edgy, poo brown for spammer, beige for hateful and unfunny [Removed by Support]. Maybe gold for chaotic neutral.

Thoughts?

I'm not really here (working at home to start the day but heading off soon) thought it would be a shame for this to sink down.

Hope to come back tonight to reading a ripping debate not just what I said, the whole shebang while I listen to my favourite DJ's station. Or not, on the debate, can't force these things - Rather than the toxic culture, I'm more fussed about where the quiet majority go, like yourself, which is why I replied.

Maybe to listen to great music <3






Last edited by Al_GGG on May 14, 2019, 6:29:59 PM
Well, that was anticlimactical, and I'm so ok with that :)

Posting to downvote against the antithesis of freedom as suggested by erdelyii.

May i forever be held accountable for my own personal discerning capability's and agency.

Back to intelectual masturbation and listening to the soothing song we will all go together when we go.

Peace,

-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
Downvoting? Antihesis of freedom? Oh now, that's a bit extreme. I hadn't even outlined my MTX branding identification scheme and flyer drop Sarn project.

Jeez








"
erdelyii wrote:
Downvoting? Antihesis of freedom? Oh now, that's a bit extreme. I hadn't even outlined my MTX branding identification scheme and flyer drop Sarn project.

Jeez










I'm sure we can come to a favorable understanding if i am allowed to curate the content of that campaign.

#Boem2020

#OpinionsAreEqualSomeJustMoreEqualThenOthers

Peace,

-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
Fuck r/games. I made sure to do the opposite. This is coming from a gay man who is tried of diversity pushing assholes like this ruining my hobbies! r/rightwinglgbt has the only sane gays left in the world. Everyone else has been lost to clown world.
Powertripping Reddit mods and virtue signalling, name a more iconic duo. I like how the couple of examples they could find either didn't get any traction or got downvoted. Seems to be a yuge problem!
GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
"
Boem wrote:


I'm sure we can come to a favorable understanding if i am allowed to curate the content of that campaign.

#Boem2020

#OpinionsAreEqualSomeJustMoreEqualThenOthers

Peace,

-Boem-


I'm deep in discussions with Chris now about the coloured text, having a meeting with him tomorrow. if you whip up a letter drop flyer I'll take it along.

Thanks Hornybull and Xav, for those thoughts.

From the original post -

"
By showing disdain or outright rejecting minority and marginalized communities, we become more insular. In this, we lose out on the chance to not only show compassion to these people, but also the chance to grow our own community and diversify the demographics of those involved in it. Whether it’s misogyny, transphobia, homophobia, racism or a host of other discriminatory practices, now is the time to stymie the flow of regressive ideas and prevent them from ever becoming the norm.


These people. >.< They meant well and really misread their audience but WHAT.

What Do You Mean, You People?

Apparently it's all backfried.

SHOCKING!

Boem I'll snag some sandwiches and send them over after the meeting. I hear GGG have capers, smoked salmon and cream cheese bagels. Mmm mm.



They are clearly discriminating against gays that like a joke on their expense.

Stop this madness now!

#Boem2020

#mylifemattersandhisandyoursandthoseandthemandthatrandomdudeinthecorner

Isn't it kind of funny the "importance" put on a medium that hardly can express the multitude of information contained in a single message.(text based dialogue)

We will never know the tone, the facial expression, usually the context perceived by the poster and what have you in regards to these what are deemed "insult posts".

They are clearly showing uncountious yet countious of that uncountious bias.

A rabit hole has never been sprinkled more eagerly with traps when a simple smile or laugh would suffice to close it.

I'll take salmon thank you very much and leftovers if they will end up in a garbage bin otherwise.

Peace,

-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
Last edited by Boem on Apr 3, 2019, 11:40:45 AM

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