[3.7] [Updated] Cold Scourge Arrow CI Trickster - Very simple and tanky

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elbramso wrote:

Nope it's not about the Phys reduction, it's about the fact that ur pob shows that u use charges all the time and this won't be the case in bossfight situations if u don't channel more then 1 sec anyways.

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thedeathbeam wrote:

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elbramso wrote:

Nope it's not about the Phys reduction, it's about the fact that ur pob shows that u use charges all the time and this won't be the case in bossfight situations if u don't channel more then 1 sec anyways.

Ah I see what you mean, you are referring to that annoying part with channeling I mentioned. Well yeah, this is true, but during mapping I almost never have infusion up, and so Added Cold removes that part where I need to activate it during that period (e.g Syndicate encounters etc).

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elbramso wrote:

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thedeathbeam wrote:

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elbramso wrote:

Nope it's not about the Phys reduction, it's about the fact that ur pob shows that u use charges all the time and this won't be the case in bossfight situations if u don't channel more then 1 sec anyways.

Ah I see what you mean, you are referring to that annoying part with channeling I mentioned. Well yeah, this is true, but during mapping I almost never have infusion up, and so Added Cold removes that part where I need to activate it during that period (e.g Syndicate encounters etc).

I was talking about how to generate frenzy and power charges during bossfights.

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Carrasco_Santo wrote:

The vast majority of bosses generate some kind of minion. Although this is not a guarantee, since some generate more or less minions, it gives some security in having some amount of charges against it. Once you get maximum charges (or whatever you get), if you channeling your skill sometimes for at least 1 second on boss fights (carefully, obviously) you guarantee that at least 1 type (frenzy or power charges) will remain active, also guaranteeing the effect of Infused Channeling. I think this effort to charge for at least 1 second every 10 seconds charges can get interesting if you do not have enough DPS to pop the bosses quickly.

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thedeathbeam wrote:

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Carrasco_Santo wrote:

The vast majority of bosses generate some kind of minion. Although this is not a guarantee, since some generate more or less minions, it gives some security in having some amount of charges against it. Once you get maximum charges (or whatever you get), if you channeling your skill sometimes for at least 1 second on boss fights (carefully, obviously) you guarantee that at least 1 type (frenzy or power charges) will remain active, also guaranteeing the effect of Infused Channeling. I think this effort to charge for at least 1 second every 10 seconds charges can get interesting if you do not have enough DPS to pop the bosses quickly.

Yeah, its definitely doable to maintain all stacks at bosses. But still, Infused Channeling is actually less DPS even with Infusion than Added Cold Damage. But, it could make channeling at bosses a bit safer because of the phys reduction I guess.

I added Alternative Gems section to main thread that now contains both Infused Channeling and Ele Focus, hhopefully that will be enough for people who want to run it (and they are definitely both valid options).

I also added simulated Ghost Shroud bonus to PoB and swapped to lvl 21 Scourge Arrow (because its like, dirt cheap anyway so why not). So now the DPS is like 40k short of 3M.

Updated PoB: https://pastebin.com/V5MMGADG

I also properly colored and socketed all items in PoB as I always keep forgetting about that.

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elbramso wrote:

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thedeathbeam wrote:

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Carrasco_Santo wrote:

The vast majority of bosses generate some kind of minion. Although this is not a guarantee, since some generate more or less minions, it gives some security in having some amount of charges against it. Once you get maximum charges (or whatever you get), if you channeling your skill sometimes for at least 1 second on boss fights (carefully, obviously) you guarantee that at least 1 type (frenzy or power charges) will remain active, also guaranteeing the effect of Infused Channeling. I think this effort to charge for at least 1 second every 10 seconds charges can get interesting if you do not have enough DPS to pop the bosses quickly.

Yeah, its definitely doable to maintain all stacks at bosses. But still, Infused Channeling is actually less DPS even with Infusion than Added Cold Damage. But, it could make channeling at bosses a bit safer because of the phys reduction I guess.

I added Alternative Gems section to main thread that now contains both Infused Channeling and Ele Focus, hhopefully that will be enough for people who want to run it (and they are definitely both valid options).

I also added simulated Ghost Shroud bonus to PoB and swapped to lvl 21 Scourge Arrow (because its like, dirt cheap anyway so why not). So now the DPS is like 40k short of 3M.

Updated PoB: https://pastebin.com/V5MMGADG

I also properly colored and socketed all items in PoB as I always keep forgetting about that.

Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate your work and I like the guide but please don't pump ur dps numbers with unrealistic scenarios.

- Vaal Haste enabled
- Frenzy + Power Charges up at max
- Leeching ES all the time (u need to lose ES to leech) -> Blood Rage could be the answer here.

It's just a kind advice. I've killed Shaper, Red Elder and am going to try Uber Elder today and I know about the pro's and con's of this build (playing hybrid)

So again, good work - keep on going

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thedeathbeam wrote:

- Vaal Haste is workaround around missing support for Ghost Shrouds in PoB atm, actual build is not using it
- Its doable to keep Frenzy and Power charges on max, mainly at shaper
- I am leeching ES all the time because I am already using Blood Rage

I am definitely trying to avoid creating unrealistic scenarios for the PoB, but I strongly believe that my current DPS is easily achievable during boss fights.