(3.14) Toxic Rain + Caustic Arrow | 5-10m Sirus DPS | Fast + Durable | 50c Budget/SSF Uber Elder

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Hello, I am running a mines version of TR trickster and was looking for some advice: short version is that I was hitting red maps and around T14, getting one-shotted a lot... I am not skilled enough to avoid it enough to progress so I tossed on a small cluster with enduring composure and added CWDT with immortal to synergize with it.

Question is: is there a better way to get some good mitigation? I'm open to using Watcher's but it doesn't seem like much of an aura capable build so I don't know that it would help, dodge is high and shrouds are nice but once they wear out on heavy hits I just die too quick, I have freedom of movement because it just seems too juicy to ignore but that might be silly. I'd be into changing clusters too if there was a good combo I am missing. It seems like it definitely made a world of difference on survival but I expect it will drop my DPS too much when I get to T16s etc....

Also, with the need to only have one 6-L, is there something worthwhile putting in the chest? I was considering Agony Crawler or building some sort of AG setup?

Here is a link to my build: https://pastebin.com/b781D4pi I'd love any feedback, I know I need a better bow, so that will be my next purchase and then looking at speccing out of mines and trying CA but right now I feel like I am just doing a hail mary trying to survive the Maven arenas.

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Ech0er wrote:

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Hello, I am running a mines version of TR trickster and was looking for some advice: short version is that I was hitting red maps and around T14, getting one-shotted a lot... I am not skilled enough to avoid it enough to progress so I tossed on a small cluster with enduring composure and added CWDT with immortal to synergize with it.

Question is: is there a better way to get some good mitigation? I'm open to using Watcher's but it doesn't seem like much of an aura capable build so I don't know that it would help, dodge is high and shrouds are nice but once they wear out on heavy hits I just die too quick, I have freedom of movement because it just seems too juicy to ignore but that might be silly. I'd be into changing clusters too if there was a good combo I am missing. It seems like it definitely made a world of difference on survival but I expect it will drop my DPS too much when I get to T16s etc....

Also, with the need to only have one 6-L, is there something worthwhile putting in the chest? I was considering Agony Crawler or building some sort of AG setup?

Here is a link to my build: https://pastebin.com/b781D4pi I'd love any feedback, I know I need a better bow, so that will be my next purchase and then looking at speccing out of mines and trying CA but right now I feel like I am just doing a hail mary trying to survive the Maven arenas.

Can you fit Discipline in there? I think it would help, even if you have to forego Skitterbots to fit it in. Also, Flesh & Stone if possible.

Enlighten + Flesh & Stone + Discipline + Malev should fit into your helm

Otherwise, more life can't hurt.

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Defiants wrote:

Can't seem to progress past Tier 12 ~ or level 91.

This build doesn't feel especially durable to me, fast in maps sure, but otherwise? I don't know. Maybe I have something setup wrong. I'm running Flesh and Blood with Discipline, following mostly everything in the guide.

I'm constantly moving around, keeping flasks up. I run Caustic Arrow in my body armor 5linked and it clears most maps perfectly fine, then I have my TR in a 6L Silverbough for bosses, and I mean at this point I could just remove my bow altogether and feel about as effective as I am now. Caustic arrow does 90% of the work. I can't kill high end bosses with TR anyways, so why do I even have a 6L TR?

I've already invested a few Exalts into this, and I'm really hesitant to invest anymore because it's just not performing. My gear isn't great, but I've never performed this poorly with this level of gear.

Most of my defenses seem to be built around killing enemies, but you're not really killing enemies during most boss fights. So again, not sure why this is sold as a durable boss killing build.

That's my two cents anyway. I was tired of playing fast clearing but weak builds so I looked for something that was specifically durable-- this isn't durable. This feels no different to me than several other mapper builds I've played. If I start to take damage I die. Period. It relies on me not being hit by kiting. That's not durable. That's not defense.

I'll totally acknowledge it's almost impossible to die while clearing maps because of the regen when killing enemies, but again-- that doesn't carry over into boss fights. I think I'm partially frustrated here just because it feels like it's impossible to find build guides that honestly and accurately portray their builds. Yeah just because your build *can* do something after you invest 100 exalts into it doesn't mean you should advertise it as such.

I've reached the content I'm doing right now with a fraction of my current gears budget, and it cleared maps just as fast...

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Defiants wrote:

Can't seem to progress past Tier 12 ~ or level 91.

This build doesn't feel especially durable to me, fast in maps sure, but otherwise? I don't know. Maybe I have something setup wrong. I'm running Flesh and Blood with Discipline, following mostly everything in the guide.

I'm constantly moving around, keeping flasks up. I run Caustic Arrow in my body armor 5linked and it clears most maps perfectly fine, then I have my TR in a 6L Silverbough for bosses, and I mean at this point I could just remove my bow altogether and feel about as effective as I am now. Caustic arrow does 90% of the work. I can't kill high end bosses with TR anyways, so why do I even have a 6L TR?

I've already invested a few Exalts into this, and I'm really hesitant to invest anymore because it's just not performing. My gear isn't great, but I've never performed this poorly with this level of gear.

Most of my defenses seem to be built around killing enemies, but you're not really killing enemies during most boss fights. So again, not sure why this is sold as a durable boss killing build.

That's my two cents anyway. I was tired of playing fast clearing but weak builds so I looked for something that was specifically durable-- this isn't durable. This feels no different to me than several other mapper builds I've played. If I start to take damage I die. Period. It relies on me not being hit by kiting. That's not durable. That's not defense.

I'll totally acknowledge it's almost impossible to die while clearing maps because of the regen when killing enemies, but again-- that doesn't carry over into boss fights. I think I'm partially frustrated here just because it feels like it's impossible to find build guides that honestly and accurately portray their builds. Yeah just because your build *can* do something after you invest 100 exalts into it doesn't mean you should advertise it as such.

I've reached the content I'm doing right now with a fraction of my current gears budget, and it cleared maps just as fast...

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Defiants wrote:

Can't seem to progress past Tier 12 ~ or level 91.

This build doesn't feel especially durable to me, fast in maps sure, but otherwise? I don't know. Maybe I have something setup wrong. I'm running Flesh and Blood with Discipline, following mostly everything in the guide.

I'm constantly moving around, keeping flasks up. I run Caustic Arrow in my body armor 5linked and it clears most maps perfectly fine, then I have my TR in a 6L Silverbough for bosses, and I mean at this point I could just remove my bow altogether and feel about as effective as I am now. Caustic arrow does 90% of the work. I can't kill high end bosses with TR anyways, so why do I even have a 6L TR?

I've already invested a few Exalts into this, and I'm really hesitant to invest anymore because it's just not performing. My gear isn't great, but I've never performed this poorly with this level of gear.

Most of my defenses seem to be built around killing enemies, but you're not really killing enemies during most boss fights. So again, not sure why this is sold as a durable boss killing build.

That's my two cents anyway. I was tired of playing fast clearing but weak builds so I looked for something that was specifically durable-- this isn't durable. This feels no different to me than several other mapper builds I've played. If I start to take damage I die. Period. It relies on me not being hit by kiting. That's not durable. That's not defense.

I'll totally acknowledge it's almost impossible to die while clearing maps because of the regen when killing enemies, but again-- that doesn't carry over into boss fights. I think I'm partially frustrated here just because it feels like it's impossible to find build guides that honestly and accurately portray their builds. Yeah just because your build *can* do something after you invest 100 exalts into it doesn't mean you should advertise it as such.

I've reached the content I'm doing right now with a fraction of my current gears budget, and it cleared maps just as fast...