Shadow - (3.14) Toxic Rain + Caustic Arrow | 5-10m Sirus DPS | Fast + Durable | 50c Budget/SSF Uber Elder - Forum

the link for the level 50 tree is the same as the 30 tree BTW. should I go down the dex route first (the green nodes down) or keep on going up the tree instead? I'm not sure if I'm going to need the dex yet, so I'm just going to grab some of the nodes going up, as they look decent to me. Tyrs Paladium - DoT Enthusiast.	Posted by Umbral_Spectre on Sep 13, 2020, 6:01:49 PM Quote this Post
" Viktranka wrote: Yes, if you lock a gem to specific level if will stop taking xp so it's kinda a waste. Most "mana drain" happens from adding extra links because each support has a mana cost multiplier usually between 1.1 and 1.4 so with 5 supports it goes up visibly (they also add to damage so later on you want to get 5link/6link). Keeping gems at low lvl is indeed usually for CWDT, or sometimes because you don't have enough str / int for a secondary utility skill (let's say you don't have enough int for max lvl of wither or enough str for max lvl of flesh&stone you can keep them at lower lvl). It's less important for skills that don't do damage (for example flame dash) but for your main skill it's a big downside to not be able to level it. You might not see it when you're early in the campaign but you will notice it later when you get to maps. also dude, that support gem was a bit weird I thought, so I am using the multiple projectiles one instead (was using volley at first, they seem almost the same though) that one you mentioned shoots 4 areas of AoE to all 4 corners. I'm sure it has it's uses, but not good for what I need right now. I just use caustic as a faster way to attack stuff. sometimes using rain is a bit slow when you need to react fast. essentially I use rain as AoE and then I blast stuff with caustic as a sort of single target attack (but it's also AoE, great build) I'm just hoping I can use this in heist, or something similar, as I bought skill skins for it and stuff. ha ha. PS: forgot to tag you last night, so you probs missed my last messages from then. Tyrs Paladium - DoT Enthusiast. Last edited by Umbral_Spectre on Sep 14, 2020, 9:48:55 AM	Posted by Umbral_Spectre on Sep 14, 2020, 9:47:36 AM Quote this Post
Hey all. I feel very stupid asking this, but I'm having trouble understanding why The Vertex is a helm reco for this build. I know the reduced mana cost doesn't apply to auras (unless there's supposed to be some spell totem shenanigans socketed in there as well). Is it solely because of the +1 to socketed gems (to bump up enlighten) and the high ES roll? It's essentially a nicer Geofri's Crest...but I also haven't played a lot of Tricksters so I'm likely underestimating the value of all that extra ES. I know at the top end of things there are better options with the hunter influenced -chaos res mod, but outside of that is The Vertex still the mid-tier top dog? I'm currently planning to try this build as my 3.12 league-starter, and I'm trying to keep myself honest in PoB with gear that won't shred the bank (to start).	Posted by Phrasemonger on Sep 14, 2020, 4:03:19 PM Quote this Post
" Phrasemonger wrote: Hey all. I feel very stupid asking this, but I'm having trouble understanding why The Vertex is a helm reco for this build. I know the reduced mana cost doesn't apply to auras (unless there's supposed to be some spell totem shenanigans socketed in there as well). Is it solely because of the +1 to socketed gems (to bump up enlighten) and the high ES roll? It's essentially a nicer Geofri's Crest...but I also haven't played a lot of Tricksters so I'm likely underestimating the value of all that extra ES. I know at the top end of things there are better options with the hunter influenced -chaos res mod, but outside of that is The Vertex still the mid-tier top dog? I'm currently planning to try this build as my 3.12 league-starter, and I'm trying to keep myself honest in PoB with gear that won't shred the bank (to start). Sorry, adding one question to this pile. In the original tree PoB pastebin, frenzy charges are checked. I can't tell how we're generating them. Are they a remnant from when Maloney's Mechanism was the suggested quiver and we were using a Frenzy skill + curse set up in there?	Posted by Phrasemonger on Sep 14, 2020, 4:14:43 PM Quote this Post
" Phrasemonger wrote: Is it solely because of the +1 to socketed gems (to bump up enlighten) and the high ES roll? Yes. It also used to be very cheap until around metamorph, but for the last couple of leagues it's very expensive week1 because all the TR and ED tricksters jumped on it. Feel free to skip it and use a budget rare then transition to hunter helmet later on. Just be mindful of your mana reservation, without +1 to enlighten you might have to drop an aura early on or spec charisma / influence nodes for less mana reserved.	Posted by Viktranka on Sep 14, 2020, 4:48:47 PM Quote this Post
" Viktranka wrote: " Phrasemonger wrote: Is it solely because of the +1 to socketed gems (to bump up enlighten) and the high ES roll? Yes. It also used to be very cheap until around metamorph, but for the last couple of leagues it's very expensive week1 because all the TR and ED tricksters jumped on it. Feel free to skip it and use a budget rare then transition to hunter helmet later on. Just be mindful of your mana reservation, without +1 to enlighten you might have to drop an aura early on or spec charisma / influence nodes for less mana reserved. Thanks so much, that makes sense. Figured that was the case, but I wanted to be sure I wasn't missing some key interaction with the other mods on that helm. Odds are Enlighten Lv3 won't be on my first-to-purchase list (seeing as there are a lot of other important build pieces), so I'll likely skip The Vertex and look at the Charisma cluster...or just be pickier with the auras I run in week 1.	Posted by Phrasemonger on Sep 14, 2020, 6:18:50 PM Quote this Post
I have a question, sorry if i come out dumb, but a new player in general. How do we cast toxic rain and caustic arrow at the same time or do we switch weapons?	Posted by thk_lord on Sep 15, 2020, 3:06:38 AM Quote this Post
" thk_lord wrote: I have a question, sorry if i come out dumb, but a new player in general. How do we cast toxic rain and caustic arrow at the same time or do we switch weapons? Switch weapon but probably we just use toxic rain during hard bosses	Posted by gokudin on Sep 15, 2020, 8:50:54 AM Quote this Post
So if i get this right - primary tool is Toxic rain - for faster mapping in a way - we use caustic arrow and at the boss toxic rain?	Posted by thk_lord on Sep 15, 2020, 9:02:10 AM Quote this Post
" thk_lord wrote: I have a question, sorry if i come out dumb, but a new player in general. How do we cast toxic rain and caustic arrow at the same time or do we switch weapons? I run them on separate links. rain is on the main one with mirage, then I just have caustic with a multiple projectiles mod currently (levelling my caustic/rain guy at the minute, the character was just dumped out of Harvest, so I'm waiting to get it back) are you saying that this build does not allow for you having both set up's? I've mostly been away since 2016 TBH mate (I came back in 2018 and did some more) so stuff might have changed a lot, but I don't ever remember switching weapons. theres more than enough room for gems on items. Tyrs Paladium - DoT Enthusiast. Last edited by Umbral_Spectre on Sep 15, 2020, 10:22:46 AM	Posted by Umbral_Spectre on Sep 15, 2020, 10:21:59 AM Quote this Post