(3.14) Toxic Rain + Caustic Arrow | 5-10m Sirus DPS | Fast + Durable | 50c Budget/SSF Uber Elder

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Sneakyh0bbit wrote:
What do people anoint on their amulets?
Corruption is pretty good for its price.
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Sixtine wrote:
What's the best between efficacy and swift affliction ? I don't have empower yet if that matters, here's the bow I'm using atm :





Asking again

Also, is the method to craft a bow still the same ?
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Viktranka wrote:
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Sneakyh0bbit wrote:
What do people anoint on their amulets?
Corruption is pretty good for its price.


Recommend Corruption as well, its a sizable dps boost. If you happen to be even more budget or undecided on the amulet, consider Aspect of the Eagle it's one of the cheapest annoints you can get.

I wanted to try squeezing in Cyclopean Coil to test the shock + frozen immunity, but I'm getting so much ES and work out of -



If can get an affordable 2-toned boots that covers my resists, I'd definitely would try the switch.


Last edited by LegendaryMewtwo on Mar 23, 2020, 5:42:14 PM
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Was able to alt spam those mod on a 6 link bow. Is there any way to craft with this base. I'm not really familiar with crafting so. I thought i could regal it for attack speed but its problably not the way to go?


I'm learning as I work on my own bow here, but my thoughts...

Alt spamming for +1 socketed gems together with dot multi is probably a waste of time. You could regal that for a lucky attack speed and save some ex on metacrafting, but +1 socketed gems can be a guaranteed slam on a two affix rare with dot + as.

It wasn't super clear to me in the guide, but the process is basically

1. Alt for t2-t1 dot multi
2. If you hit, regal, regardless of prefix
3. If regal doesn't give you attack speed, scour and goto 1.
3b. If your regal DOES give you attack speed and your prefix is +1 socketed gems, goto 7. Otherwise goto 4.
4. Once you get a 3 affix rare with whatever / dot multi / as, craft "suffixes cannot be changed" and scour. This leaves you with a two suffix rare.
5. Craft "cannot roll attack modifiers" suffix. This gives you a 3 suffix item. That means if you use an exalt, all suffixes are blocked. On top of that, the *only* non-attack prefix you can slam is +1 socketed gems. Source: https://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Bow
6. Exalt for guaranteed +1 socketed gems.
7. Multimod chaos dot multi & +2 socketed support gems
Last edited by Piefayth on Mar 23, 2020, 8:21:56 PM
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Was able to alt spam those mod on a 6 link bow. Is there any way to craft with this base. I'm not really familiar with crafting so. I thought i could regal it for attack speed but its problably not the way to go?



https://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Bow

First thing I would do is to check this site to learn about bases, and what mods can go on what. While your bow isn't bad, the elemental damage won't do anything for this build. I prefer a Thicket bow do to its speed.

And it's difficult what to suggest you craft, without knowing how much currency you have, what recipes you've unlocked, etc.

But as far your first steps into crafting go, +1 Level, and damage over time is a good step.

Edit: This is a pretty good TR build, thanks OP. I played Mathil's Inpulsa build last league, and while I miss the pure speed, I definitely don't miss getting popped all the time. Way more survivability in this build.
Last edited by shrewbert on Mar 23, 2020, 10:18:53 PM
I was wondering something, looking at the build where we take Method to the Madness and Atrophy. We get them for the Chaos Dot multiplier. I have seen on chaos dot gems that you can 5% plus double 10 % which over 5-6 point invesment heavily outclasses that of those nodes. Which leads me to think of dropping those entirely.

My other thought was this go for 2 cluster jewels, one that has touch of cruelty for hinder on hit, and unholy grace for 10% attack cast speed and chaos damage, then the 3% attack and cast speed on chaos skills which could result in 37-40% atk speed. This jewel would not have any sockets, so I would have to travel to the northern large jewel socket to setup another large jewel that would extend to double Chaos Dot medium jewels, and max life jewels as small choices.

What are your guys thoughts? Also what are our thoughts on the best cluster jewel setup?

Doing the math in POE results in a 45% increase DoT damage, but with an loss of EHP down from 8.2k to 7.2k, thoughts? Also EHP could be higher, but I took a dodge cluster jewel for elusive, for extra dodge, and movement speed, but can be swapped for life cluster jewel easily.

The overall gear can be improved nonetheless, I am asking in terms of improving the skilltree moreso.

https://pastebin.com/9jV1gxab
Last edited by Massacre775 on Mar 24, 2020, 3:37:10 AM
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shrewbert wrote:

First thing I would do is to check this site to learn about bases, and what mods can go on what. While your bow isn't bad, the elemental damage won't do anything for this build. I prefer a Thicket bow do to its speed.
You just want a fast bow.

Best options are:
thicket / grove - 1.5 speed
imperial - 1.45 speed
maraketh - 1.4 speed

Yes, imperial implicit is useless but it's still second best speed and the easiest bow to obtain at high level due to imperial legacy cards, so it's a very popular crafting base due to that.

Maraketh gives movement speed implicit so could be worth losing a bit of damage / attack speed if you value movement speed.

Below that I wouldn't consider slower bows as your end game craft, only as an intermediate item while you're still gathering currency. Slower base can be cheaper on mid range items due to being sub-optimal.

P.S. Yes, you can get thicket 6l from porcupine cards but it's only lvl 50 so you won't be able to roll best ranks of mods on it.
Last edited by Viktranka on Mar 24, 2020, 7:48:10 AM
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Viktranka wrote:
Eh, I'd skip maloney for 8ex you could probably get a really nice rolled hunter quiver instead.


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Viktranka wrote:
You can replace belt with stygian vise if you find some other place to squeeze the strength requirements, same about your amulet - end game is hunter amulet, yours atm looks like a stat stick to patch stat requirements so you'd have to get that elsewhere first.

Any suggestions for the mods on the stygian, hunter amulet and hunter quiver or should i just look what i find in the market that gives me dps?
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Piefayth wrote:


1. Alt for t2-t1 dot multi
2. If you hit, regal, regardless of prefix
3. If regal doesn't give you attack speed, scour and goto 1.
3b. If your regal DOES give you attack speed and your prefix is +1 socketed gems, goto 7. Otherwise goto 4.
4. Once you get a 3 affix rare with whatever / dot multi / as, craft "suffixes cannot be changed" and scour. This leaves you with a two suffix rare.
5. Craft "cannot roll attack modifiers" suffix. This gives you a 3 suffix item. That means if you use an exalt, all suffixes are blocked. On top of that, the *only* non-attack prefix you can slam is +1 socketed gems. Source: https://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Bow
6. Exalt for guaranteed +1 socketed gems.
7. Multimod chaos dot multi & +2 socketed support gems


So you need at least

2 ex for suffixes can not be changed
1 ex for can not roll attack
1 ex for +1 slam
2 ex multi mod
2 ex +2 support craft

that are 8 ex total without anything "luck" ... wow ... thats a lot ;)
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Manytima wrote:

Any suggestions for the mods on the stygian, hunter amulet and hunter quiver or should i just look what i find in the market that gives me dps?
You can try crafting with aberrant fossils, or you could try to buy them. If you want, take a look at the crafting section in this thread, it has a lot of info, only difference is for toxic rain you ignore all the "pierce" mods as they aren't useful.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077932

EDIT: This guide also has some good crafting tips:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2712106

Generally what you want is:
Stygian vise with life, resists, and if you wanna craft with fossils, you can get increased chaos damage mod. Then you can get abyss jewel with onslaught, blind or phasing whichever you find most useful (or even 2 mods).

Hunter amulet you want:
+1 to all chaos skill gems
+1 to all dex skill gems
chaos damage over time multiplier
(gl getting all of these, best settle on 1 or 2 mods tops)
And then have room to craft -mana mod on it
If you can get life, es, resists, stats, it's a bonus, but it's VERY hard to get all the stuff you want, prepare for useless mods

Hunter quiver you want:
chaos damage over time multiplier
damage over time multiplier
(yes you can get both mods on 1 item)
life (quiver can go up to 100 life max afaik rly lame to not have good life on it)
rest is a bonus, anything like attack speed, projectile speed, resists, if it's there cool, otherwise focus on the dot mods

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return33 wrote:
that are 8 ex total without anything "luck" ... wow ... thats a lot ;)
Who would have thought crafting the perfect end game item costs... Well duh.

There are cheaper intermediate options in the guide, you can skip some stuff and get one of the other options if you're on a budget. It states that the best option will cost you 10ex+.
Last edited by Viktranka on Mar 24, 2020, 9:13:36 AM

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