(3.14) Toxic Rain + Caustic Arrow | 5-10m Sirus DPS | Fast + Durable | 50c Budget/SSF Uber Elder

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Hi :),

Any advice on some upgrades i should be looking at? I know Empower 4 but besides that.

Thanks,

There really isn't a lot of advice left for you, most of the obvious stuff you've already done.

- Save for the ultimate bow, with better attack speed
- Double damage multiplier quiver
- See if you can fit in Witchfire Brew or Dying Sun
- Rings with better life rolls
- Amulet with better rolls and still +1 gems
- Lab enchants on gloves / boots / helm
- If you haven't filled out your pantheon yet, work on that as well
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
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victorlee wrote:
oh yeah do you guys like Carcass Jack or QOTF more?

Currently using QOTF but considering switching to Carcass Jack for more DPS.

Carcass Jack for extra damage.
QOTF for faster clear speed.
The Perfect form for more defense.

By now I have all three, and I use whichever one fits the content I'm pushing at the moment. Most of the time I'm using The Perfect Form.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
Help me understand the purpose of this link:
Dash-FasterAttack-BlinkArrow-CullingStrike.

Dash is for general movement.
Faster Attack is for...faster attack speed.
Blink Arrow is to hop ledges/cliffs.
What's Culling Strike for? I havent built up T11+ maps yet, but TR normally kills stuff anyways. And I'd cast another TR to kill instead of Blink Arrow to kill.

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Also, why is a lvl21 Discipline so expensive (compared to a non-corrupt lvl20)? It's currently 20c vs 80c. It only has 4es extra. Or 10es from lvl21 to lvl22.
Last edited by chapppy on Jan 22, 2020, 6:08:50 PM
Hi! First season playing a bow boy and 3rd season overall. I've followed the PoB of OP as best as I could but seem to struggle a lot with bosses/metas. The build feels low dps and low defense aka I die quickly. I can do T16 maps but struggle with lots of deaths per map.

I have another thicket bow in the works, 86 ilvl, but not 6 socketed yet.

Casting frenzy and building totems seems cumbersome but I don't have money for Maloney's yet.

Gear:


Alternate Boots:


Flasks:


Jewels:


Tree:
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYCAAPuBbUG5wceCIkI9AztDXwOSBB7EVARlhNtFAkWvxmKGo8dqh2-H0Ei6iL0JT8mOiaIJpUnqSj6MHEwfDIBM4czozpCPLZGcUkTSVFJsUt4TINRR1VLVvpXyVvTXEBdaF3yYENh4mpDbAttGW1sbj1w1HSBdZ52gn8rf8aCx4MJgxaExYfLieCMNo19jb-P-pMfkyeVBZUumFOa8Zu1nAKhL6LZo6OkBacrp5uw2LEwshm0DLTRtUi3ML1dvjq-gL6KwzrIDMqpytPPFc961CPWVNfP2jvbGt2o36DhiOZY53To1uq674jw1fba-Tf5pPno-wk=?accountName=lvhurricane&characterName=Its_Britney_Bitch_

Can any of you give me some pointers in what to invest next? I have 4ex and 500c saved up. Perhaps I specced wrong somewhere, I'm at a loss a bit :/
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chapppy wrote:
Help me understand the purpose of this link:
Dash-FasterAttack-BlinkArrow-CullingStrike.

Dash is for general movement.
Faster Attack is for...faster attack speed.
Blink Arrow is to hop ledges/cliffs.
What's Culling Strike for? I havent built up T11+ maps yet, but TR normally kills stuff anyways. And I'd cast another TR to kill instead of Blink Arrow to kill.

~~~

Also, why is a lvl21 Discipline so expensive (compared to a non-corrupt lvl20)? It's currently 20c vs 80c. It only has 4es extra. Or 10es from lvl21 to lvl22.


Culling strike insta-kills any boss with <10% life, including shaper/elder/sirus, etc.
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lvhurricane wrote:
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chapppy wrote:
Help me understand the purpose of this link:
Dash-FasterAttack-BlinkArrow-CullingStrike.

Dash is for general movement.
Faster Attack is for...faster attack speed.
Blink Arrow is to hop ledges/cliffs.
What's Culling Strike for? I havent built up T11+ maps yet, but TR normally kills stuff anyways. And I'd cast another TR to kill instead of Blink Arrow to kill.

~~~

Also, why is a lvl21 Discipline so expensive (compared to a non-corrupt lvl20)? It's currently 20c vs 80c. It only has 4es extra. Or 10es from lvl21 to lvl22.


Culling strike insta-kills any boss with <10% life, including shaper/elder/sirus, etc.
To expand on that... linking culling strike to blink arrow means your clone left behind has culling strike. Not a big deal for mobs, but cutting 10% off the time to kill metamorphs is a good thing.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
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lvhurricane wrote:
Hi! First season playing a bow boy and 3rd season overall. I've followed the PoB of OP as best as I could but seem to struggle a lot with bosses/metas. The build feels low dps and low defense aka I die quickly. I can do T16 maps but struggle with lots of deaths per map.

I have another thicket bow in the works, 86 ilvl, but not 6 socketed yet.

Casting frenzy and building totems seems cumbersome but I don't have money for Maloney's yet.

Gear:


Alternate Boots:


Flasks:


Jewels:


Tree:
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYCAAPuBbUG5wceCIkI9AztDXwOSBB7EVARlhNtFAkWvxmKGo8dqh2-H0Ei6iL0JT8mOiaIJpUnqSj6MHEwfDIBM4czozpCPLZGcUkTSVFJsUt4TINRR1VLVvpXyVvTXEBdaF3yYENh4mpDbAttGW1sbj1w1HSBdZ52gn8rf8aCx4MJgxaExYfLieCMNo19jb-P-pMfkyeVBZUumFOa8Zu1nAKhL6LZo6OkBacrp5uw2LEwshm0DLTRtUi3ML1dvjq-gL6KwzrIDMqpytPPFc961CPWVNfP2jvbGt2o36DhiOZY53To1uq674jw1fba-Tf5pPno-wk=?accountName=lvhurricane&characterName=Its_Britney_Bitch_

Can any of you give me some pointers in what to invest next? I have 4ex and 500c saved up. Perhaps I specced wrong somewhere, I'm at a loss a bit :/

This build primarily scales damage by boosting the level of our Toxic Rain gem. This is why a level 21 gem is so important, and you've got that. However, a bow that scales another 3 levels is also super important, and you have one that scales 1. We use Empower because it scales levels even further.

Then we scale damage and chaos damage multipliers on gloves and quiver. You have neither.

Then we scale attack speed on bow, quiver and gloves. You have none. Then increased damage anywhere we can fit it - also none.

I'll be shocked if your damage doesn't outright DOUBLE at least as soon as you take care of some of these.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
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lvhurricane wrote:
Hi! First season playing a bow boy and 3rd season overall. I've followed the PoB of OP as best as I could but seem to struggle a lot with bosses/metas. The build feels low dps and low defense aka I die quickly. I can do T16 maps but struggle with lots of deaths per map.

I have another thicket bow in the works, 86 ilvl, but not 6 socketed yet.

Casting frenzy and building totems seems cumbersome but I don't have money for Maloney's yet.

Gear:


Alternate Boots:


Flasks:


Jewels:


Tree:
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYCAAPuBbUG5wceCIkI9AztDXwOSBB7EVARlhNtFAkWvxmKGo8dqh2-H0Ei6iL0JT8mOiaIJpUnqSj6MHEwfDIBM4czozpCPLZGcUkTSVFJsUt4TINRR1VLVvpXyVvTXEBdaF3yYENh4mpDbAttGW1sbj1w1HSBdZ52gn8rf8aCx4MJgxaExYfLieCMNo19jb-P-pMfkyeVBZUumFOa8Zu1nAKhL6LZo6OkBacrp5uw2LEwshm0DLTRtUi3ML1dvjq-gL6KwzrIDMqpytPPFc961CPWVNfP2jvbGt2o36DhiOZY53To1uq674jw1fba-Tf5pPno-wk=?accountName=lvhurricane&characterName=Its_Britney_Bitch_

Can any of you give me some pointers in what to invest next? I have 4ex and 500c saved up. Perhaps I specced wrong somewhere, I'm at a loss a bit :/
So double might have been a little high on the estimate scale. However, I ran the numbers through POB and my spreadsheet. You are currently pushing 3.07 million dps.

Swapping for my bow, quiver, and gloves - which are not top end gear, by any stretch - and dropping Efficiacy for a level 3 empower, puts you at 4.17 million. Pushing that Empower to level 4 is 4.61 million. End game +3 bow is 5.2 million.

For reference, here's my bow, quiver, and gloves:

Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
Wow, great insights! Thank you. I'll use your suggestions to get/farm some better gear now!
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lvhurricane wrote:
Wow, great insights! Thank you. I'll use your suggestions to get/farm some better gear now!


Like said before, youre nowhere near the end of the build:
- (!) Get atleast +2 bow gems, your bow is very below average, even for mid game.
- (!) You dont have corruption annointed on the amulet, another big increased of damage, super cheap.
- Get atleast one damage mod, chaos damage or over time damage multiplier, and life on the quiver.
- You dont have over time multi and/or attack speed on the gloves.
- Empower 4 is a huge boost for the DPS, even empower 3 is big.

Defence:
- (!) You dont have a decent ring/amulet/belt/gloves/quiver, i mean atleast try to get +50 ehp on each of them, and 70 on the belt/gloves/quiver.
- If youre struggling with defence, get a Perfect Form, and remove all the points used to get the dodge node, and put it on more jewels sockets/missing nodes, so you can get even more damage/atk speed/defence.

About Maloney:
- You dont need Maloney, it shouldnt be even on your mind if you dont check up all of these point, you wont need despair/totems against packs, just bosses and metamorphs, even then its not necessary but recommended, so you should just cast it.

- Frenzy isnt needed, just like Maloney, double damage quiver is much better.

If you get atleast a decent setup, 5-15ex, depending on your trading/crafting skills, you can expect +6.5k ehp and 4m DPS, enough to do all content and not getting killed on most of them.

You can check up my character if you need any guidance, im done with it, every content done deathless and at a fast pace too, such as uber elder and sirus a8, and im doing a SSF one too.
Last edited by nabilfares5 on Jan 23, 2020, 12:44:41 AM

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