[3.13] ESSENCE DRAIN / BANE / SOULREND Occultist / Trickster Build. STARTER & UBER Elder Carry!

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FeniX_2917 wrote:

why do you use the minions nodes: Righteous Army + Spiritual Aid? And Arcane Vision?

Minions nodes for damage, Arcane Vision because if light radius is based on life when you go low-life it is very small.

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lkainn wrote:

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

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lkainn wrote:

Did anyone here try unleash with soulrend? I did some tests yesterday with unleash vs efficacy, despite having more damage with efficacy (50k dot) i feel that i clear faster and also kill bosses faster with unleash (35k dot damage).

I tried and didn't like it. GMP covers WAY better since it gives you CONE-like traectory and not a straight line

I mean, together with GMP. My current links are Soulrend - GMP - Controlled destruction - Void manipulation - Unleash. Tooltip reflects less dps than efficacy but it seems like it does more damage. Further tests are required.

In this setup, use efficacy with Soulrend instead of Void Manpulation. It's straight 9% more dps, and 15% increased duration with zero downside. Or if you don't want to recolor, use it instead of Controlled destruction. it's same DoT dps, with duration, and without dropping crit to zero.

So still better, unless you rely heavily on energy shield leech (where controlled destruction and Void manipulation increase leech by increasing 'hit' damage along with DoT - which you shouldn't worry about if you are occultist).

I'm a huge fan of "Unleash", and it have been always great for me. It make Sourend shine without any investment in cast speed, I actually had 0.85 cast speed of Soulrend while leveling (because of Doedre's Tenure), used it on 4L, and I didn't need more than that in most scenarios.

What this support do is extending your reach by having all these projectiles, and extending your DoT duration by reapplying it more times per cast. That's why it's great for slow casting from afar.

It goes like: One cast --> pop Quicksilver Flask --> run through everything while they melt --> You have 3 seals up, and restored your flask charges while running --> repeat ...

It's more lazy and relaxed approach, but the also very lag friendly, not all people live in class A country with best connection.

Where Unleash does shine?
* In open areas, it just keep going and chasing all packs in all directions.
* Also great in confined Tunnel-like areas. As more projectiles cast have better chance of taking the perfect path and clearing entire tunnels in front of you.
* Incursion.. Enough said
* All Memory clusters, and all new league related.. because of the layout.
* Syndicate! For all insane adds.

Where it's ok but not best?
* Delve!
It's ok, as it's almost same as regular streamlined maps, but with huge density and infinite monsters coming at you every inch, while you play catch up with the light. It feels slow for this specific scenario (you stand for too long) and you would be better with investing in cast speed and using pure dps support instead.

* Huge life pool single target. (shaper and above).
Keep GMP so you don't keep missing your single projectile, but replace Unleash for dps.

* If you invest so much in "cast speed"
so there is no gap between casts, and DoT is 100% up already without Unleash. (example: dual wielding with "Dark Art" cluster on tree) In this playstyle you want to use movement speed skills a lot and keep casting, Unleash would be counter-productive.

That's my opinion though, and more experienced players may agree or disagree

hello, im using bane+ED for the skill, im just using ED for map boss, what gear should i upgrade, i have 80 chaos to use, or should i save it to buy shavrone wrapping ? this is my gear, i used the mana flask because i had quite some mana problem, i have 8,9k ES

My main question is, how do you deal with soulrend's incredibly high mana cost? With the amount of mana you've reserved, you get 1 cast before you're OoM and with a mana regen of 84, you don't have the net regen to upkeep your cast rate, and thus loose out on deeps with soulrend's short duration.

Edit: Guessing you'd drop at least one (or both) of your blasphemy curses and just rely on bane for cursing.

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iOnlyRave wrote:

My main question is, how do you deal with soulrend's incredibly high mana cost? With the amount of mana you've reserved, you get 1 cast before you're OoM and with a mana regen of 84, you don't have the net regen to upkeep your cast rate, and thus loose out on deeps with soulrend's short duration.

Edit: Guessing you'd drop at least one (or both) of your blasphemy curses and just rely on bane for cursing.

Exactly. With Soulrend you will be unreserving as much as possible and use bane for most things. Bane is out Contagion here

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keroro800 wrote:

hello, im using bane+ED for the skill, im just using ED for map boss, what gear should i upgrade, i have 80 chaos to use, or should i save it to buy shavrone wrapping ? this is my gear, i used the mana flask because i had quite some mana problem, i have 8,9k ES

Spoiler

Boots, belt, better shield, shavs

What about bow, short bow ilvl max 50, its ok for craft ?

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Der_Teer wrote:

I'm a relatively new player and have been playing this build in this league. I've been just pretty lost on what damage skills I like the best from the available Blight/Contagion/Essence Drain/Soulrend/Bane.

I noticed that you seem to have played this build a fair bit already and that you're using 4 of them which sounds so many to me and wanted to ask how do you use all of them in practice? I assume you're clearing mostly with bane and a little bit with Soulrend + Multiple projectiles and applying ED to big HP guys. I was wondering in what way are you using Blight in this build when it's not linked to Cast when Channeling + Soulrend?

Hey, sorry for the late reply.

I'm clearing almost 100% with Soulrend, it 1 shots multiple screens even at T15 and I'm not even using a +1gems/+2 support bow with empower (adds almost 25% more damage). I use Bane on tanky rares, or into a doorway that has a huge crowd behind it. ED is purely for extra boss dps, and Blight is currently only used for elder/shaper/guardians for the infused channeling buff (I almost never use it, you can consider those two open sockets if you want to swap to maybe a CWDT-IC if you want a bit more of survivability.)

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Brasolis wrote:

Blight is currently only used for elder/shaper/guardians for the infused channeling buff (I almost never use it, you can consider those two open sockets if you want to swap to maybe a CWDT-IC if you want a bit more of survivability.)

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I've been using the CWDT-IC on those slots, but I'll now remember that blight can also be an option.

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r0mio wrote:

What about bow, short bow ilvl max 50, its ok for craft ?

yes