[3.5] CheeQu's CoC Ice Nova Assassin - Up to 7m Shaper DPS + Amazing Clearspeed [In-Depth Guide]

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ojejku wrote:
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Hohenheim_ wrote:

Because one Ice Nova proc is normally enough to kill trash mobs and the benefits of HH out way the longer cooldown of CoC (i.e. the movement speed, life, ES, regen, damage and other bonuses you'll get within like 15 seconds of any map).

Plus this build has more than enough damage for red tier maps.

Exactly, but you can still have cdr on boots so it's feasible to have both things. However, you don't really need that for mapping anyway as @Hohenheim already explained, you can also switch belts for end game bosses if you wish.

I'm not sold on using meeks and unnatural instinct as assasin, it is just not optimal I think as you do it with scion, you lose notables you need to take in order to get there, you can get similar results with other tree areas investments as assasin, apart from movement speed of course. You also need to travel a lot, here and there, not even mentioning the prices for jewels. I did this last league when I played ele hit cold crit scion. However, I'm welcome to be proved wrong ;)

@Hohenheim you can use similar WE jewel to mine, with increased base crit chance with hatred.

Unnatural instict is an undebatable upgrade, period.

That said, it is expensive AF and the benefits are not that great considering the cost. It's only for reaching the absolute limit of the build.

The guide will get a big update in 2-3 days where all of these things and many more will be included and explained with detail.
Last edited by CheeQu on Jan 7, 2019, 7:46:35 AM
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EzraCrack wrote:
Hi , what can i improve ???



Thanks !!


Enfeeble or ice nova damage helm enchant.

Guide will get a major update in 2-3 days with more available upgrades for you so check again by then!
this build can do Hall of Grandmasters and endgame ?
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thetochz191 wrote:
this build can do Hall of Grandmasters and endgame ?

End game yep for sure.
Hall of grandmasters I havent tried myself, but others reported they completed it with ease.
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thetochz191 wrote:
this build can do Hall of Grandmasters and endgame ?


yes it can do flawless except for Kazim(One of the last Players which only build tanky and with tempest shield. You'll need a constant damage source like RF or Scorching ray for this guy... so annoying.)
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CheeQu wrote:
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EzraCrack wrote:
Hi , what can i improve ???



Thanks !!


Enfeeble or ice nova damage helm enchant.

Guide will get a major update in 2-3 days with more available upgrades for you so check again by then!


Thanks :) Fast answering , great guide , great build ! hoora !!
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Melodic1z wrote:

I have some questions. ^^
why use hatred aura? because of watcher's eye on mod critical chance?
or another reason? what else aura would advise to the assembly?

Just for the critical chance.

@CheeQu I didn't say it's not an upgrade, I just say it's not worth considering its cost and passive tree traveling you need to make going for it as Assassin (travelling all around the scion start), especially you would need to take meeks as well to get full ROI, for scion is obvious choice (you save so many points, it's just designed for Scion), unless we would have 135 passive points. This is just my opinion, but if you just want to go for maximum dmg, then go for it. The only thing I regret not having it is the additional movement speed I could have with that setup, but rest is not worth as I said, we already have plenty crit multiplier with so many jewel sockets and being assassin, you got other places in tree where you can get more as well if you want.
Last edited by ojejku on Jan 7, 2019, 8:24:00 AM
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ojejku wrote:
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Melodic1z wrote:

I have some questions. ^^
why use hatred aura? because of watcher's eye on mod critical chance?
or another reason? what else aura would advise to the assembly?

Just for the critical chance.

@CheeQu I didn't say it's not an upgrade, I just say it's not worth considering its cost and passive tree traveling you need to make going for it as Assassin (travelling all around the scion start), especially you would need to take meeks as well to get full ROI, for scion is obvious choice (you save so many points, it's just designed for Scion), unless we would have 135 passive points. This is just my opinion, but if you just want to go for maximum dmg, then go for it. The only thing I regret not having it is the additional movement speed I could have with that setup, but rest is not worth as I said, we already have plenty crit multiplier with so many jewel sockets and being assassin, you got other places in tree where you can get more as well if you want.

Yes it is undoubtably better for a scion. As I said it's only for taking the build to the max, nothing important or anything. The way I incorporated it it doesnt offer multi (I traded other multi on tree to get there). It offers about 200 life, movement / attack speed and 108 resists. So it acts as a replacement for silver flask (allows use of basalt while having benefits of onslaught essentially since we get 20%+ atk spd and 16% movement from tree) and also the use of an additional unique for damage (since we get 108 resist from tree).

So the net benefit is 200 life, a flask slot and about ~20 "more" damage from a unique. Great benefits but at the cost of 15 ex.

More info in 2-3 days.
Last edited by CheeQu on Jan 7, 2019, 8:35:16 AM
Did you consider what do you sacrifice for that? passive tree nodes, rare jewels with crit multi etc? I guess the net value you said, you compare to other setup, what setup is that?
Last edited by ojejku on Jan 7, 2019, 8:45:51 AM
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ojejku wrote:
Did you consider what do you sacrifice for that? passive tree nodes, rare jewels with crit multi etc? I guess the net value you said, you compare to other setup, what setup is that?


Yes, that's compared to the new and improved tree (this will be a great improvement byitself btw) which will be posted here when the guide update happens. All sacrifices included, that's net benefit (at least very close to those numbers, I dont have access to PoB to tell you 100% accurate figures).

You will be able to see what I mean in 2-3 days when I get home and update it!
Last edited by CheeQu on Jan 7, 2019, 8:58:13 AM

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