[3.6]Winter orb CWC Ice Spear Assassin 2.2m+ Shaper DPS 9kehp - Beginner Friendly. Uber Elder Down

Updated build guide
[3.0] BLIGHT PACT | Guardians+Shaper Down on a 4l! Budget To Not So Budget | 9k life | Starter Build - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1957148
Last edited by lumosnoxlumo#4465 on Dec 26, 2018, 10:02:20 PM
I would like to know why didn't you upgraded quality for the ice spear ?
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Pierdek wrote:
I would like to know why didn't you upgraded quality for the ice spear ?


Ice spear gain 2% projectile speed per quality leading to 40% increased projectile speed. However, Projectile speed does not affect the distance whereby the first form changes into the second form. The second form already has 300% increased projectile speed; any more than that would seem rather pointless.
[3.0] BLIGHT PACT | Guardians+Shaper Down on a 4l! Budget To Not So Budget | 9k life | Starter Build - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1957148
Did you change anything on the tree for the poison variant? or just the two ascendancy points?
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Rogerklotz wrote:
Did you change anything on the tree for the poison variant? or just the two ascendancy points?


Since we are just using poison for the support gem, it not a main source of damage. Hence i did not use alter the tree for poison, just the ascendancy nodes
[3.0] BLIGHT PACT | Guardians+Shaper Down on a 4l! Budget To Not So Budget | 9k life | Starter Build - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1957148
Hey, just saw this build and was fooling around with the current gear I have. I don't think pandemonius is BIS for this build, other than the fact it provides a blind. I'm trying to sell a couple items to afford a 6l shroud before I think about swapping, however I think my variant is a bit stronger than yours offensively and defensively. I use anger with a 50 crit multi watcher's eye, with a CWDT molten shell setup for extra physical defenses. I also run spider and arctic armour, AA provides me with more mitigation for phys/fire.

https://pastebin.com/BuS2gk2H

Here is my PoB. I think scolds is better than toxins, have to get more %poison chance elsewhere if I swapped to scolds.
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lord9898 wrote:
Hey, just saw this build and was fooling around with the current gear I have. I don't think pandemonius is BIS for this build, other than the fact it provides a blind. I'm trying to sell a couple items to afford a 6l shroud before I think about swapping, however I think my variant is a bit stronger than yours offensively and defensively. I use anger with a 50 crit multi watcher's eye, with a CWDT molten shell setup for extra physical defenses. I also run spider and arctic armour, AA provides me with more mitigation for phys/fire.

https://pastebin.com/BuS2gk2H

Here is my PoB. I think scolds is better than toxins, have to get more %poison chance elsewhere if I swapped to scolds.


I definitely agree with Pandemonius not being BIS in this build but I do find pretty convenient due to blind and -20% cold resist. Ideal amulet would be one with -10% elemental resists/13% added chaos damage, crit multi etc.

However I disagree with this build being less offensive/defensive than your linked PoB.
Defensively, this build has 5khp, 4.5kes, 1.6 sec es recharge delay and 270es regen per sec. Not to mention blind, freeze and chill which your build lacks. 9.5k ehp allows me to tank pretty much anything in the game even shaper slam during uber elder fight.

Offensively, it also does better with 1.96m shaper dps without vaal cold snap active (3 frenzies, bonechill) and without winter orb too. Assuming 2 hits from winter orb per cast, that would total to around 2.2m dps, without the 100% increased damage if one enemy present modifier.

https://pastebin.com/BuS2gk2H

I agree scolds would give a really nice dps boost, however the opportunity cost is rather large; you would not be able to recharge es due to damage taken per cast. Also, you lose out ~40% chance to poison, which is a looottt of passive nodes on the tree.

Also, I wonder why do you use blood of the karui and a diamond flask? Both do not synergise well with this build.
[3.0] BLIGHT PACT | Guardians+Shaper Down on a 4l! Budget To Not So Budget | 9k life | Starter Build - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1957148
Last edited by lumosnoxlumo#4465 on Jan 2, 2019, 7:53:44 AM
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lumosnoxlumo wrote:
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lord9898 wrote:
Hey, just saw this build and was fooling around with the current gear I have. I don't think pandemonius is BIS for this build, other than the fact it provides a blind. I'm trying to sell a couple items to afford a 6l shroud before I think about swapping, however I think my variant is a bit stronger than yours offensively and defensively. I use anger with a 50 crit multi watcher's eye, with a CWDT molten shell setup for extra physical defenses. I also run spider and arctic armour, AA provides me with more mitigation for phys/fire.

https://pastebin.com/BuS2gk2H

Here is my PoB. I think scolds is better than toxins, have to get more %poison chance elsewhere if I swapped to scolds.


I definitely agree with Pandemonius not being BIS in this build but I do find pretty convenient due to blind and -20% cold resist. Ideal amulet would be one with -10% elemental resists/13% added chaos damage, crit multi etc.

However I disagree with this build being less offensive/defensive than your linked PoB.
Defensively, this build has 5khp, 4.5kes, 1.6 sec es recharge delay and 270es regen per sec. Not to mention blind, freeze and chill which your build lacks. 9.5k ehp allows me to tank pretty much anything in the game even shaper slam during uber elder fight.

Offensively, it also does better with 1.96m shaper dps without vaal cold snap active (3 frenzies, bonechill) and without winter orb too. Assuming 2 hits from winter orb per cast, that would total to around 2.2m dps, without the 100% increased damage if one enemy present modifier.

https://pastebin.com/BuS2gk2H

I agree scolds would give a really nice dps boost, however the opportunity cost is rather large; you would not be able to recharge es due to damage taken per cast. Also, you lose out ~40% chance to poison, which is a looottt of passive nodes on the tree.

Also, I wonder why do you use blood of the karui and a diamond flask? Both do not synergise well with this build.


I use the flasks because I was just importing items from my current build into PoB.

Hybrid builds will always have difficulty, especially when you can't leech or are constantly getting hit, which means recharge does nothing with the delay. The regen/sec is nice, but you're putting too much reliance on ES over leech.

Blind is nice for sure, but chill/freeze is going to be very difficult to get in shaper/elder fights, so I didn't bother going for any chill. You even stated hypothermia doesn't work against uber elder, so it's pointless to use hypothermia at all. For regular mapping, you already have enough EHP to do fine in all content, though on some guardians you probably would swap.


Vaal RF is giving me 400k damage for bosses, and I don't need much else for regular clearspeed, like frenzy charges.

Unshattered will doesn't show up in PoB for defensive options, but it's stun immunity, 20% DR, and removes status ailments. It also gives resists so it's a very nice item to have in a unique heavy build.

Looking at the calcs tab, I am pushing 2 mil shaper dps with my set up, just swapping to pandemonius primarily.


Here is my updated PoB: https://pastebin.com/vH9Fe5Kx

I also added intuitive leap to save some skill points, grabbing more life and crit in the tree.
Last edited by lord9898#0301 on Jan 2, 2019, 10:37:19 AM
Additionally, with so much ES, why not just go EB/MoM?
Do you really need 100% chance to poison? 76% seems more than enough considering the number of projectiles per second (about 27 poisons per second with dying sun). Im asking this because "Ambush and Assassinate" is giving much more dps than "Noxious Strike".

Your POB on the main post is still the old hypothermia build.
Last edited by AT_Blitzy#3513 on Jan 5, 2019, 7:05:50 AM

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