0.10.2 Patch Notes

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jazzy_poe wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but I really don't see the point in nerfing lower levels of Poison Arrow and Fire Trap.
Nerfing has such a negative mentality in general, but even in this specific case I just don't see the point even though I understand why.
Okay, like 90% of top chars in short races were using these skills, lets nerf them. Woo-frickin-hoo. Now after this patch 90% of top chars will be using Freezing Pulse instead, then what? Nerf FP with the next patch too? Then everyone will start using some other ranged AOE skill instead. Can you see the pattern here and the problem with this approach?
All this achieves is just slowing down the leveling of new chars outside of the races.

Also it's good that they started making an effort to buff melee, but it's gonna take much more than +1% damage per level on a few skills.
Although when the best idea to buff melee ironically enough is to give it more range (Might nodes), it just seems like a quiet admitting that the whole combat system is a failure.

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HaterClan wrote:

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anonthefelon wrote:

How did people get to thinking there was even a partial refund?

Read the patch notes.

So I came from the mara side and got Berserking only..thats gonna grant me a FULL refund?

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anonthefelon wrote:

The important sentence here is: "Characters who had passives that have been affected by pathing changes have received refunds to their passive skills."

It doesn't say "effected skills" or "only the changed skills". It says "Passive skills". In your case, they are removing a passive you took, which means your pathing is changed. The branch that headed for Berzerking is now different since the end of it no longer exists.

The only solution is to give you a full refund. How irresponsible would it be to just give you five points and say "Have a nice day". We'd end up with hundreds of broken characters within ten minutes.

This is an argument of logic, folks. If they change a point's location or existence, and you have that point, you must receive a full refund. You can't just leave a character hanging one point away from the changed point, it breaks the character.

This is what happened in closed beta, it's the historical stance on the subject, and nothing has been said to the contrary. Stop propagating the idea that this might be a partial refund.

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Zealflare wrote:

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VideoGeemer wrote:

Reading through these, everything seems really great .. except the nerf to poison arrow. Sure, it's only at low levels, but 35% is *a lot* ... now there's no point in going PA unless you know you want to stick with it. And who will, if it doesn't do any damage?

The point of PA was that sure, its effects don't stack, but at least it doeas a lot of BASE DAMAGE.

Now it won't. And when they say "low levels" we have no idea if that means levels 1-5, or levels 1-19, because it might only catch up to its current damage at level 20.


Other than that, this looks like a great patch, and hey, even melee skills get boosts!

It was nerfed because it was dominating the 1-2 hour races, along with fire trap. Literally 70% of the top people in these races were playing Shadow, since its the class that gets them quickly.