[3.6] The Blizz Sorc - Icestorm/Winter Orb CI Occultist - Viable For Everything

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lilianmarius wrote:

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bonewall wrote:

Is trickster still viable for this? What make scion better? Higher potential intellect?

From what I know none of the top players of this specific WI build played Trickster in the previous 4-5 leagues.

Kelvynn never recommended his build to be played with Trickster ascendancy class.

What is so good at that Ascendancy that make it feasible with this build?

Trickster Ascendancy buffs are quite strong, even after the nerf.

You could also utilize some conversion mechanics for more damage.

Shaper's Touch gloves + Trickster on this build is also insane for EV scaling.

TLDR it's certainly viable, but would be a bit different in how you would build it I think.

I haven't really looked into it, but we have huge int, so we should concentrate on ES scaling rather than EV.

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NoImagination wrote:

I haven't really looked into it, but we have huge int, so we should concentrate on ES scaling rather than EV.

Massive Evasion is a byproduct of having huge int with Shaper's Touch. 2% Increased Evasion per 10 int is A LOT of %EV. With a Trickster, specifically, you'd use a Sadist Garb instead of a Regalia. If you have something with say 1500EV and 350ES (Same as a 600ES Reg) then you're scaling all that evasion without any really effort or investment.

Shaper's touch also gives 2% increased ES% per 10 strength, so it's worth a good amount of ES as well. That said, it's not as much ES as a good pair of rare gloves and it lacks the actual INT stat, but for Trickster, specifically, I would use it to boost recovery mechanics (Ghost Shroud recovery based on 5% of Evasion) and adding Evasion as an extra defensive layer.

On a side note, I am curious how much damage an Eternity Shroud based Trickster could get to. A Spacey staff would look sweet :D

And yeah... ocult vs elem +- same or ocult better surv/dps?

Something like should definitely be considered. It's a huge upgrade over Astramentis (uncorrupted) and is much easier to get the bit of Str/Dex you need as a Scion than as a Witch.

I dislike the lab as much as the next man, but I don't think it's wise to skip it. The ascendancy tree is just too powerful.

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NoImagination wrote:

I dislike the lab as much as the next man, but I don't think it's wise to skip it. The ascendancy tree is just too powerful.

The power just manages to exceed the annoyance. I'm getting frozen often enough now I suppose I should get Inquisitor.

Kelvynn needs to return and see what Cyclone has done to his build!

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Graiaule wrote:

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NoImagination wrote:

I dislike the lab as much as the next man, but I don't think it's wise to skip it. The ascendancy tree is just too powerful.

The power just manages to exceed the annoyance. I'm getting frozen often enough now I suppose I should get Inquisitor.

Kelvynn needs to return and see what Cyclone has done to his build!

I love Cyclone but Inquisitor is becoming less and less appealing because its not always you stay on Concecrated Ground, i mean, you could pop potion and spin in place while opening chest i guess, idk.

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Graiaule wrote:

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should definitely be considered. It's a huge upgrade over Astramentis (uncorrupted) and is much easier to get the bit of Str/Dex you need as a Scion than as a Witch.

Nice find, I got 2 days ago one for myself that is more powerful than a corrupted 6% intelligence implicit Astramentis. Only had to grab a 30 Dex node to fulfill Str and Dex requirements. I used this type of Talisman also in Synthesis league. If you find a decent one for a decent price you should grab it

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littledexxy wrote:

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Graiaule wrote:

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NoImagination wrote:

I dislike the lab as much as the next man, but I don't think it's wise to skip it. The ascendancy tree is just too powerful.

The power just manages to exceed the annoyance. I'm getting frozen often enough now I suppose I should get Inquisitor.

Kelvynn needs to return and see what Cyclone has done to his build!

I love Cyclone but Inquisitor is becoming less and less appealing because its not always you stay on Concecrated Ground, i mean, you could pop potion and spin in place while opening chest i guess, idk.

Cyclone may be better for clearing and a cooler "meta" choice also, but in the end when you'll have to face Uber Elder or Aul for example I think it will fail hard compared to Winter Orb option.

In UE fight if you get frozen by Shaper Barrage balls and don't have the flask charges to un-freeze yourself fast you may consider yourself dead :). Same for Aul fight.