[3.8] A CI/LL Tri-Curse Herald of Agony Occultist [Deathless Uber Elder, League Starter]
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Ravennnnnn wrote:
How much does the Vorici on research safehouse thing that gives you white sockets on equipment without corruption help with the very challenging color setup?
it helps alot ;D you can look at my chest (no idea how to link items). got it just right.
Last edited by 2letterz#6386 on Dec 13, 2018, 5:18:34 PM
Added fire famage + EE is the best option..Empower is if you cant proc it..Also lightning golem doesnt proc EE, it is you that has the EE so it is you that has to hit with some kind of lightning or cold damage to get the -fire resist on the mob. Just check the tooltip of roa if it has lightning damage on it and it must not have fire on it.Also text on any mob when you hit will change to Vulnerable to Fire, vulnerable to cold, resists lighnting if you are hitting with light. So yes if that is the case you tick enemy hit by light and you can see the EE in action on PoB giving the extra damage from the -40%.
On another note with the Golden rule jewel trick the build not only got cheaper, it also got better. Now Quill Rain is no longer BiS, you can use any bow you want you can still get the full stacks on single target. You can use a darkscorn if you want more survivability, but for me best option is to get a 6l shortbow from the porcupine cards for 18c (3c per card) alt reagal for Attack speed and craft the new fancy veiled mod for +28% minion Attack speed and also you can have some resistances on it as well for even easier gearing on jewlery. For me that is 10% damage increase in PoB which is significant and also helps with clearspeed.This is the bow im currently using, and no need to spend fusings and jewlers on the quill rain or try to scour/chance a 6l shortbow from the cards.
As for coloring your 6links. Start with RoA on bow (4g 2b is easy) and you should be using incandecent heart until you get a big Vaal regalia with 550+ ES. On incandecent heart 3g2r1b is easy but on a Regalia you will want to switch RoA and HoA (Roa on chest is 4 off colour Hoa on bow is 3 off colour)
For people that complain that this build is too slow for clearing try swaping temp chains on roa for poachers mark, get the +AS craft on a rare bow, get jewels with + minion AS and + minion AS on kill, swap minion damage dor minion speed and remember that a lvl 21 HoA is crucial and a big bump in dps and AS (+40% AS for crawly boy) and come back to me if that machinegun of a minion is too slow for you.
A build, any build, is not the holy grail, you should be tweaking it to your liking and to your playstyle and this one has a lot of room to wiggle around. Self cast phase run, flame dash instead of blink, cwdt spirit/flesh offering, build more clearspeed for defences, etc. Dont blindly follow a guide and complain it doesnt work for you until you tried other things with it.
Teos, where you found this recipe for crafting? I only find melee weapons with those stats on poe.trade :(
I consider myself as a decent player (killed uelder dozens of times / playing since beta /etc) and I find it VERY hard to get the crawler next to me which is VERY frustrating !
- Damage seems really good (when the crawler hits)
- Defense sounds good (once again, when the crawler is here, when he's not you don't have that much defense when in the middle of a pack)
All in all, I just ran a dungeon and an armory map, it was one of my worse poe experience ever. Sometimes, I don't even know where the crawler is and convo is on CD, well, you just have to wait and that happens a LOT of times
This, and when there are ennemies about all around me, the crawler seems a bit lost and it takes a couple of seconds to clean the screen which (imo) sux :(
And what sux the most it that the crawler is sooooo passive, basically what happens to me all the time is :
- I kill a pack
- I move to next one and curse the whole pack
- Move to it but the crawler was far behind and doesn't do anything so I have to shoot again the whole pack (which moreover doesn't die in a single pet shot most of the times - 6L HoA lvl 15 gems in T2 map !!!)
DOn't think I really missed something, feels like the way it is but I'm kinda disappointed :(
Really, thinking to move to BV, or full reroll to elemhit that has same suv/damage but not the downsides descirbed
I had the same feeling. Everything changed after staring casting Convocation manually. Work like a charm.
Teos, where you found this recipe for crafting? I only find melee weapons with those stats on poe.trade :(
Its from the syndicate veiled mods i think. if you got a bow you want to have it on it i can craft it for you i think the cost is 4c per try, the mod is 25-28% and its a suffix.
there arent a lot of builds that can utilise such a bow thats why noone is crafting that and selling it.
As i explained it is pretty easy to craft one for yourself you dont need to buy it. 18c for the 6link with porcupine cards anf then alt regal till you get attack speed and resists it shouldnt take more than 100. Then i can craft the veiled mod on it for you. Or you can delve craft with bound fossils for an extra minion damage mod. Also essences of Zeal guarantee the AS mod if you have those.
If you really want to make the best bow you are going to need lots of alts to hit the +1 to socketed gems mod which is a bit rare. If you hit that with bound fossils you got out mirror tier bow for our build which should look something like this:
keep in mind the porcupine cards give a ilvl 50 bow thats why we have lower weapon AS and minion damage from delve craft. If you want higher mods you will need to 6link it yourself.
Hello !
Playing with this build, it's fun !
But I've got issue with the precedent statement ; with the recommanded gems, even with the 4% mana reduced on the tree, there is no way to put the herald and discipline at the same time. What do I miss here ?
You are missing sovereinity node on the tree which has reduced mana reserved as well
EDIT: went away and alt crafted the bow.. something like this is way better than Quill Rain.. I guess BiS would be delve crafting with bound fossils for an extra 110% minion damage as well but that is gonna take a lot of fossils. For now im satisfied with this and i have no problem maintaining virulence with it on bosses.
sorry, what is alt crafting?
I'm fairly new and all I know is fossil crafting, unveiled crafting, the crafting bench in your hideout and of course orb crafting. Are there any other useful ways of crafting I should know?
Last edited by sooshka#5795 on Dec 13, 2018, 11:32:27 PM
Regarding the debate with Quillrain vs Golden rule, I think you should take the PoB numbers carrefully : it's easy to click "always 40 stacks" when calculating the DPS, it's another think to really get them on hard contents (uelder / syndicates / delve bosses / guardians / etc..)
and that's more or less the only moment where DPS matters as everything else die in 0-2 seconds
And @TeosMaoMao
Are you sure your DPS difference is that huge between lvl 21 and lvl 22 gems ?
Comparing lvl 20 gem Quill rain with lvl 21 (from +1 bow) woudln't be that accurate as any bow with a lvl20 gem would lose VS a +1 bow !
Last edited by Thanarchy#0786 on Dec 14, 2018, 2:04:46 AM
Regarding the debate with Quillrain vs Golden rule, I think you should take the PoB numbers carrefully : it's easy to click "always 40 stacks" when calculating the DPS, it's another think to really get them on hard contents (uelder / syndicates / delve bosses / guardians / etc..)
and that's more or less the only moment where DPS matters as everything else die in 0-2 seconds
@ Thanarchy
I definitely agree with you Thanarchy !!!
Getting and staying reliably at 40 Virulence stacks in hard fights is indeed the biggest DPS increase of all !
Really interesting build! Gonna try it out. But just one question (it has probably been answered, but i don't have the time to look through all the pages for it). How do you cope with the seemingly heavy Dex usage? Just by items or?
Regarding the debate with Quillrain vs Golden rule, I think you should take the PoB numbers carrefully : it's easy to click "always 40 stacks" when calculating the DPS, it's another think to really get them on hard contents (uelder / syndicates / delve bosses / guardians / etc..)
and that's more or less the only moment where DPS matters as everything else die in 0-2 seconds
And @TeosMaoMao
Are you sure your DPS difference is that huge between lvl 21 and lvl 22 gems ?
Comparing lvl 20 gem Quill rain with lvl 21 (from +1 bow) woudln't be that accurate as any bow with a lvl20 gem would lose VS a +1 bow !
This is my PoB from my live betrayal char. I got a lvl 21 gem already (was lvling 9 HoAs from the start).Its not only the HoAg that gets +1 level its all gems that benefit from it thats why its so good.
https://pastebin.com/DtwCpDNi
You can see the diffrence with the quill rain vs a +1 bow even without the empower. it goes from 650 to 840k which is significant.. Chuck in an empower lvl 3 you get your 1m DPS to advertise on thread title hehe.
Dont pay attention to the trash gear (boots, helm rings amu) still gearing him up and saving up on chromes and fusings for the chest, still dont have the full gem setup which will include a CWDT spirit offering and a cwdt IC,so damage will go up if you put that in as well.
this is the PoB from my Delve char which has all the right gear and skills an was using him as a refrence to build my new one. I threw in the +1bow to check it out. If you tick minion has frenzy charges (with poackers mark) and has the minion killed recently it hits up to 1.4m dps with empower instead of VP.
https://pastebin.com/U6W1Fdx9
@Felkor alt crafting is using orbs of alteration on a item until you find the desired mod then use an orb of augmentation if it has only one mod and then regal it to get one more.
@Jialen We get at 74 dex from the tree and +30 from soul strike. thats 104 dex and we need 159 total for a lvl 21 HoA. So the rest you get with items but if not just spend a point or 2 on +30 dex nodes we got 2 we can grab from the tree.
EDIT: As for the actual DPS and viru stacking i only got to Elder so far, and was keeping stacks up just fine. When i get to shaper ill report back, still filling up red maps.
Last edited by TeosMaoMao#7864 on Dec 14, 2018, 4:07:39 AM
