[3.13] TOXIC RAIN + HERALD OF AGONY Pathfinder Build (6-8K life) (UBER ELDER done!) +VIDEO GUIDE!

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

For toxic rain Quill Rain beats even a very good +3 bow. The DoT is slightly less, but since you plant pods twice as fast.. well. .
Pathfinder is all-around good class for nearly everything. It's pretty hard to go back to raider after you taste this 100% flask uptime.
Another thing that i wanted to test are Virulence and poison. They really synergize well with HoA

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xMustard wrote:

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

For toxic rain Quill Rain beats even a very good +3 bow. The DoT is slightly less, but since you plant pods twice as fast.. well. .
Pathfinder is all-around good class for nearly everything. It's pretty hard to go back to raider after you taste this 100% flask uptime.
Another thing that i wanted to test are Virulence and poison. They really synergize well with HoA

i dunno, i still have 100% uptime on flasks unless its really long boss fights without any adds anywhere, but pathfinder would run out eventually too.
i get 3-4 drinks (5 on my sulphur and life flask) out of my flasks. to pick an ascendancy for poison stuff, when not focusing poison, and to focus herald of agony when its damage caps out pretty hard in later content, seems like a waste to me.

raider has more damage than pathfinder, same movement speed, and way way WAY more defensive. but its mostly just preference i guess.


to handle mana issues, for me, i went blood magic. my tree is different than most, but since you're spamming toxic rain so much the mana cost can get insane.

what i'd like to test now is what is better - poison stacking version or DoT version, both with quill rain.
i guess it wouldn't hurt to add in some poison when stacking the DoT, since a lot of the supports would support both. hmm. maybe i'll augment my build a bit to get that.


EDIT: frick pob is annoying as hell sometimes. sure it gives you what supports is best PER POD dps, but it fails to consider things like how long each pod lasts, and how many pods you can get hitting one mob, type of thing.

in this situation, its very hard to tell what is the best support. im focusing on dot dmg and right now im running toxic rain, vicious, void manip, mirage archer, inc dur and efficacy. wanna know if damage on full life or decay or anything else is better than inc dur, but its so hard to tell. obviously pob says so, because its only calculating the dps per pod

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kenmai9 wrote:

What's your goal of using increased duration? Wouldn't less duration be better? It'll make the pods blow faster and do more damage.

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dejuvenate wrote:

If you are focusing on the dot, you should consider going trickster then. Gives a fuckton of benefits with dots and sustain.

Best support for the dots are
Toxic Rain

Vicious proj
Swift affliction
Mirage archer (35% MORE DMG)
Void manipulation

People have been saying that TR works like lightning spire trap. I.e. the radius stays the same, inc/decrease in aoe affects the individual pods. In that case, the last spot should be inc aoe. It gives less paper dps but it allows dots to overlap easier.

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dejuvenate wrote:

It is 15% reduced duration, which is nothing.

Just taking a single duration cluster gives 45% increased duration. Taking 2 gives 90%.

1.9x duration
1.75x duration with swift affliction
Only 8% less duration overall

While swift affliction gives 44% MORE damage at lvl 20.

Do the math yourself. Plug into POB.

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mathiasmmh wrote:

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dejuvenate wrote:

It is 15% reduced duration, which is nothing.

Just taking a single duration cluster gives 45% increased duration. Taking 2 gives 90%.

1.9x duration
1.75x duration with swift affliction
Only 8% less duration overall

While swift affliction gives 44% MORE damage at lvl 20.

Do the math yourself. Plug into POB.

go do the math yourself, inc duration comes out ahead anyway