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can't understand why +1 bow fire arrow from shaper quiver is better than 70 % more damage with ailement + 2 skills point saved (20% chance poison)+3 frenzy charges frome elder quiver ??? what i missing ?
Last edited by notblueone#1394 on Sep 22, 2018, 4:31:22 AM
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Need advice for build, i got Fenumus' gloves and i didn't have mana for spam Toxic Rain, maybe it's good option to use curse on hit instead blashemy?
I know i need better rings, stygian belt etc.
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notblueone wrote:
can't understand why +1 bow fire arrow from shaper quiver is better than 70 % more damage with ailement + 2 skills point saved (20% chance poison)+3 frenzy charges frome elder quiver ??? what i missing ?


For TR, +1 arrow only helps with clear and does not improve single target dps. Every additional arrow will have its own radius outside of the original and thus no overlapping. The bonus area for clear isn’t actually v significant either due to poison prolif from ascendancy. I would still prefer a 70% increased Damage quiver but it seems really rare.
Last edited by ExponentMach#7873 on Sep 22, 2018, 5:36:38 AM
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ExponentMach wrote:
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notblueone wrote:
can't understand why +1 bow fire arrow from shaper quiver is better than 70 % more damage with ailement + 2 skills point saved (20% chance poison)+3 frenzy charges frome elder quiver ??? what i missing ?


For TR, +1 arrow only helps with clear and does not improve single target dps. Every additional arrow will have its own radius outside of the original and thus no overlapping. The bonus area for clear isn’t actually v significant either due to poison prolif from ascendancy. I would still prefer a 70% increased Damage quiver but it seems really rare.


ok thk for clarifying that +1 arrow with TR! i have two quiver with almost 70 % its easy to craft just corroded fossil on elder quiver
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Mavenclaw wrote:
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ExcretusMaximus wrote:
Why are we using the Spreading Rot jewel? I don't understand why we're using a Blight jewel when we don't use Blight.


We use Vaal Blight because with the jewel enemies affected by blight take 25% increased chaos damage.


So it's for bosses and hearty packs then? I'm just making sure I understand completely.
Highest Character: Level 92 86% Block/Static Strike Champion - Abyss League
I get bored of the grind around 90, probably won't ever get a higher character.
Hi guys, what do you think about
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linked with curse on hit + despair/poacher mark? Will it suit better than 6l cherrubim with herald inside?
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ExcretusMaximus wrote:
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Mavenclaw wrote:
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ExcretusMaximus wrote:
Why are we using the Spreading Rot jewel? I don't understand why we're using a Blight jewel when we don't use Blight.


We use Vaal Blight because with the jewel enemies affected by blight take 25% increased chaos damage.


So it's for bosses and hearty packs then? I'm just making sure I understand completely.


Yes, I mean the enemy takes an amazing 45% more chaos dmg while affected by it if you use the jewel.
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dholly wrote:
Hi guys, what do you think about
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linked with curse on hit + despair/poacher mark? Will it suit better than 6l cherrubim with herald inside?

Have you tried it out? But i don't see how it would be better than the up to 80% more chaos dmg from cherrubim.
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ExponentMach wrote:




Currently in the midst of getting all gems to 20/20. Have done Shaper deathless with no quality on gems. I swap out pierce and minion speed for added chaos and vile toxins against tougher bosses. Also, I currently swap out swift affliction for vile toxins against guardians/Shaper. Swift affliction is much smoother for mapping, though. However, I'm just wondering which is the best support gem for TR and HoAG to boost my dps- Vile Toxins/Unbound Ailments/Deadly Ailments since my build is more poison-centric. PoB is really confusing and doesnt seem to give the full story when it comes to damage calculations on poison/DoT builds. It says I have less than 100k shaper dps but I think that is because they only consider 1 instance of DoT and 1 poison? Is there someone who's kind enough to help import my build into PoB and tell me which support gem works best and what dps numbers I should be expecting?

Thanks for the help and amazing guide!

Pob cannot give exact number for Toxic Rain or Hoag.
As for links: i would use Withering Touch for Hoag as we don't really know if Crawler inflicts Poison at all. he surely does physical and chaos damage though, so Withering Touch is a reliable boost for him.
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notblueone wrote:
can't understand why +1 bow fire arrow from shaper quiver is better than 70 % more damage with ailement + 2 skills point saved (20% chance poison)+3 frenzy charges frome elder quiver ??? what i missing ?

There are no quivers with MORE damage. They only give INCREASED damage, which is additive. Can you give en example of such Elder quiver you are talking about?
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