For a none-crit, not-an-assassin build it's pretty pointless. Enough poison chance without it
It adds poison duration as well. You lose DPS if your poison chance isn't at 100%. If it is already then this flask allows you to drop a passive point or 2 as well.
But even running es and scorn bow lead to the same links?
i dont know Also If dendrobate or incandescent Hearth os better on It.....
Same links, but you have to adapt a Herald mana to what you have left reserved
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Can someone give me TLDR of the nodes to go of importance while leveling?
Watching videos as guides is the worst thing ever... you gotta skip through all video just to find 1 second you want to know of... I'd rather want just to have a simple link for trees :(
First Master Fletcher and Avatar of the Hunt, then Toxic Strikes and Fatal Toxics to get more poison stacks for Herald. Then basically life and more damage.
thanks
another question, since you did not mention anything...
What is the difference between the two Toxic Rain Setups? When do you use which setup ? Which one is better when I go Calamity Chest to fully rely on the agony?
How do I sustain the stacks ? Currently (level 20ish) the stacks are gone so fast I don't even think I saw the crawler attacking yet as the stacks run out faster than it manages to get anywhere.
Is Mirage Archer really a viable choice? Because it does not procc any poison stacks.
Sustaining stacks is only possible after you get Master Toxicist on Pathfinder. And even after that your stacks will drop, just lower. It's impossible to have 40 stacks all the time.
Mirage Archer is really great. He really help clearing the packs around you and you are saving mana.
Difference depends on what you want to achieve. I think i have optimal setup with added chaos. This gives you fat explosions in 1 second. If you take Skill Effect Duration and get Increased Duration gem you can stack a lot of DoT damage on top of boss. THis is the way to go for DoT build. DoT build is "hit and run" just like Caustic Arrow.
Calamity is not needed to run 6L Herald. But it's the only way to run Grace along with 6L
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For a none-crit, not-an-assassin build it's pretty pointless. Enough poison chance without it
It adds poison duration as well. You lose DPS if your poison chance isn't at 100%. If it is already then this flask allows you to drop a passive point or 2 as well.
Agreed, but there are better flasks out there as well, like Dying Sun, Sin's Rebirth that can give better utility and same amount of damage.
For full Poison you need very high APS and not run out of mana, which is not the case for this build as we are struggling with mana management.
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I'm currently running a 6L quill rain toxic rain set up;
Toxic rain - added chaos dmg - vicious projectiles - void manipulation - damage on full life - mirage archer
I can't decide if playing with mirage archer is better than swift affliction?
What would you guys recommend?
it might be different when built for poison dmg, but when built for DoT damage, the damage is almost the exact same overall.
this leads me to like mirage archer better because he will allow you to focus on other things while still doing dps, and he'll also slow/kill things before you can even see them on your screen.
That's true. Mirage archer is like a second you doing damage as well. Would you use mirage archer with quill rain / high phys dps bow?
First Master Fletcher and Avatar of the Hunt, then Toxic Strikes and Fatal Toxics to get more poison stacks for Herald. Then basically life and more damage.
thanks
another question, since you did not mention anything...
What is the difference between the two Toxic Rain Setups? When do you use which setup ? Which one is better when I go Calamity Chest to fully rely on the agony?
How do I sustain the stacks ? Currently (level 20ish) the stacks are gone so fast I don't even think I saw the crawler attacking yet as the stacks run out faster than it manages to get anywhere.
Is Mirage Archer really a viable choice? Because it does not procc any poison stacks.
Sustaining stacks is only possible after you get Master Toxicist on Pathfinder. And even after that your stacks will drop, just lower. It's impossible to have 40 stacks all the time.
Mirage Archer is really great. He really help clearing the packs around you and you are saving mana.
Difference depends on what you want to achieve. I think i have optimal setup with added chaos. This gives you fat explosions in 1 second. If you take Skill Effect Duration and get Increased Duration gem you can stack a lot of DoT damage on top of boss. THis is the way to go for DoT build. DoT build is "hit and run" just like Caustic Arrow.
Calamity is not needed to run 6L Herald. But it's the only way to run Grace along with 6L
Shouldn't the Crawler get a serious boost being Level 22 or 23 with a corrupted gem? What about it being now considered "Chaos"? Cherrubs could boost it too?
So I am quite unsure. Both would be nice. Calamity with grace gives more surviability but toxic rain damage starts to feel good too..
The way I go, as I said is, trying to rely on the crawler, that's why I am playing with a 6L quill. Was super cheap.
Currently my setup is Toxic Rain-Void Manipulation-Vicious Projectiles-Swift Affliction-Increased Duration-Efficacy
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Shouldn't the Crawler get a serious boost being Level 22 or 23 with a corrupted gem? What about it being now considered "Chaos"? Cherrubs could boost it too?
So I am quite unsure. Both would be nice. Calamity with grace gives more surviability but toxic rain damage starts to feel good too..
The way I go, as I said is, trying to rely on the crawler, that's why I am playing with a 6L quill. Was super cheap.
Currently my setup is Toxic Rain-Void Manipulation-Vicious Projectiles-Swift Affliction-Increased Duration-Efficacy
Noone really knows how strong Herald is, but he surely is super strong with levels. And he is very strong even without Calamity
Afaik Cherrubs will only boost you and not the minion. But i am not entirely sure as HERALD MINION stuff is quite new overall. Previously only gems attached to minions or specifically MINION damage boosted them.
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Shouldn't the Crawler get a serious boost being Level 22 or 23 with a corrupted gem? What about it being now considered "Chaos"? Cherrubs could boost it too?
So I am quite unsure. Both would be nice. Calamity with grace gives more surviability but toxic rain damage starts to feel good too..
The way I go, as I said is, trying to rely on the crawler, that's why I am playing with a 6L quill. Was super cheap.
Currently my setup is Toxic Rain-Void Manipulation-Vicious Projectiles-Swift Affliction-Increased Duration-Efficacy
Noone really knows how strong Herald is, but he surely is super strong with levels. And he is very strong even without Calamity
Afaik Cherrubs will only boost you and not the minion. But i am not entirely sure as HERALD MINION stuff is quite new overall. Previously only gems attached to minions or specifically MINION damage boosted them.
Yeah but thought you might have checked out a bit.
Since Agony now has a chaos tag, everything tagged chaos incl. cherrubs should buff it now too. Depending on how much that increased 70/80% chaos damage helps.
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Shouldn't the Crawler get a serious boost being Level 22 or 23 with a corrupted gem? What about it being now considered "Chaos"? Cherrubs could boost it too?
So I am quite unsure. Both would be nice. Calamity with grace gives more surviability but toxic rain damage starts to feel good too..
The way I go, as I said is, trying to rely on the crawler, that's why I am playing with a 6L quill. Was super cheap.
Currently my setup is Toxic Rain-Void Manipulation-Vicious Projectiles-Swift Affliction-Increased Duration-Efficacy
Noone really knows how strong Herald is, but he surely is super strong with levels. And he is very strong even without Calamity
Afaik Cherrubs will only boost you and not the minion. But i am not entirely sure as HERALD MINION stuff is quite new overall. Previously only gems attached to minions or specifically MINION damage boosted them.
Yeah but thought you might have checked out a bit.
Since Agony now has a chaos tag, everything tagged chaos incl. cherrubs should buff it now too. Depending on how much that increased 70/80% chaos damage helps.
I wish Herald was in PoB or we could have in-game numbers :)
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First off I am really liking the play style of this build but I need some help trying to stay alive. I am playing SSF so I know I am missing some gear that is listed but would like any advice on what I can do with my current gear. Also if I I thought about trading some nodes to get the health ones first but wanted to see what you guys think. Is there anything with this current setup and gear that I can change gem setup or reroll properties.
