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CVgMaDBgOD wrote:

changed to pledge of hands few hours ago, got this^ helmet and really confused about craft on it?
i now have "focus" skill in my skill tab and not sure if it interfere somehow other skills on helmet :D? Also when i tried to make it into another craft via bench it said craft cannot be applied to this unique item, but how it was placed there?:D

p.s. pledge of hand(even 5 link currenty) is so much better than original one

Syndicate uniques have a veiled craft that you can unveil with Jun. You can't recraft them though, and never scour the craft because you can't put one back on (tested it in 3.6...).

The trigger on focus helmet craft is interesting because it will trigger everything. However, it's wasted on Diadem because you really want to put your auras there because of the 20% reduced mana reserve that's why the MoM/EB build can run 6 auras compared to 3 for the basic build.

Hi guys, just to check, for the +1 Maximum Spectre Chest, it only drops in Delve's armor nodes right?

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Haleray wrote:

So there is something confusing in the leveling guide. In the act 2 section it says to take elemental focus for a reward and then buy concentrated effect and deathmark. But then there’s a picture of a wand with SRS, minion damage support, and melee physical damage support linked.

Is the picture right and we are supposed to buy melee physical damage support as well or is something else supposed to be there?

Also it doesn’t say anywhere what to do with these gems we’re buying unless they’re actually linked in the pictures. Do we just hold on to them? Link them in an empty slot somewhere to level up? Actually link them with some skill or other and use them?

I realize this is really low level stupid stuff that will be irrelevant later but for those of us new to POE, new to summoners, or just trying to learn, it’s a bit unclear.

You might have missed the explanation:

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Make sure you have these gems at the end of each Act. Important socket links and colours for equipment is also shown. Try to match them as best you can. All other gems can go in any empty socket for levelling up.

I'm going to update the levelling guide this weekend, though, because 3.8 made many parts of it outdated.

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wjxue1221 wrote:

Just vaaled my Empower to level 4, should I use it in my spectre setup? Which gem should I swap?

It's quite easy to answer.
If you take out the weakest gem in your 6L, you might lose '35% more damage'.
Adding Empower 4 gives you +3 spectre levels, so say 83 -> 86.
Each spectre level is 4.5% more damage, for an aggregate of 19% more (83 vs 86).
So you actually have a net loss of 16%.

The only time it would be useful to keep is if it takes you from 5 spectre to 6.

Sell it to Zombiemancer to pay for upgrades.

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Skua99 wrote:

But I thought that the fire damage from 'Holy Flame Totem' also applied Elemental Equilibrium, am I wrong?

So if they do both apply EE, why is 'Armageddon Brand' a better choice than 'Holy Flame Totem'?

Arma Brand can be kept at level 1, so is cheap to cast. It is also immortal. It can only hit a small number of monsters. It can be linked to Curse on Hit if you want to use a curse as well.

Holy Flame Totem needs to be level 20 because all totems have hp and a low level totem will die quickly. However, it has a large range and can hit many monsters. It also gives a 6% heal and curse immunity. It cannot be linked with Curse on Hit.

Both can proc EE.

It's really down to personal choice which one you use.

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muvict wrote:

What's better: 5-linked Pledge of Hands or 6-linked body armor? And what about add conductivity+ curse on hit to armageddon brand and drop temporal chains? We can get Whispers of doom passive point for additional curse and curse enemies with conductivity and temporal chains on hit.

I think 5L Pledge is about the same as 6L chest (ignore PoB numbers).

Conductivity/CoH was part of the 3.7 build. You can definitely use it if you feel that you need more damage.

People also ran dual curse in 3.6/3.7, but we found that the extra damage wasn't useful for anything more than showing off PoB numbers and build for defense was more useful.

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kayella wrote:

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bigmunch wrote:

@kaye

Do you recommend replacing Gen+Wrath with skitter bots in the wand shield build also?

Also how much of a dps loss are RVAs vs Sds? I tired it on a 4 link and its night and day on single target.

I'm still testing/considering them:

Wrath aura gives more consistency because the spectres get the boost when they stand within the aura (and the aura is quite large). It's 21% more lightning + increased effect from Generosity. However, it costs 50% mana to reserve.

Skitterbots are somewhat less reliable because they apply non-hit shock in a medium sized radius around them. So if they are standing next to a monsters, it will have a 20% more damage take debuff. You can see the effect in action because the monsters will also be chilled. Skitterbots also have increased effect. It only costs 35% mana reserve.

I think Skitterbots might be a better option than Wrath.


RVAs will give you about half the DPS.

Why you use skitterbots with generosity?

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w0lv3n wrote:

At this stage - I assume that Carrion provides the physical damage buff to spells also (doesnt specify attack/spell) and the gloves further convert 'physical damage' globally for all minions. So this *should* provide a further buff for Slave Driver damage.
- Can anyone clarify that?

Ideally, id move Spectres to a pseudo 6L helm allowing feeding frenzy to be used with Zambies/Carrion again.

any thoughts?

I assumed the same thing, but I didn't push for added phys damage because it's a flat added. Something like AG with Dying breath gives 18% increased damage and 18% increase aura effect. You can also slap on a -9% lightning res helmet on the AG. That will give a bigger boost than 2 carrions, I think.

But for SSF, your idea might be better.

I do want to add SSF info to the guide, so I'll be interested in your continued feedback.

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jayjay999999 wrote:

Hi I have quite a few questions that popped up after playing this build for a couple of days!

Part 1: The skill mechanics of slave drivers

Part2: Mapping / Faster clearing

Part 3: Soul Eater from Unending Hunger

Part 4: Dropping Blasphemy + Temporal Chains + Enhance

Edit: Added Part 4

1: SDs seem to rarely use their other skills and use their lightning whip the majority of the time. This is what makes them better than every other whip spectre.

2: Convocation tooltip will show you the correct cooldown. What you will find is that SDs will perform progressively worse the faster you can run because they use pbaoe.

If you care more about clear speed than boss killing, then Lightning RVAs are better. They shoot a projectile that flies faster than a fireball (SG/GFR). You pay for this in damage, though. They have about 50% of SD's DPS.

Lightning Risen Vaal Advocates T16 Mapping | 18% ele reflect https://youtu.be/X_rAjVaHEx8

I don't recommend doing a spectre split because you really want GMP for faster clear, but GMP doesn't give any benefit to SDs.

3: It can give a significant boost, but you can completely skip it. You'll notice it the most in delve because of the monster density. It's not uncommon to see the spectre grow to 2-3x its normal size.

4: If you like shield charge, go for it.

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poeGT wrote:

Awesome guide, one of the best I've read through.

How are players finding the normal version in HC? Are any of the other variants better like Kaoms?

I haven't played a summoner in a few leagues and I definitely want to try out all the new changes. I have a character in A6 now just for gems and want to reroll pretty much this build on HC blight.

The Pledge of Hand Life/VMS might be good for HC. Definitely use Kaom's heart. I think it should reach 9.5k HP and you get Molten Shell and Vaal Molten Shell.

I haven't tested in HC though, so I can't promise anything!