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Don't really like the Enhanced Vaal Spectres. Too slow, sloppy AI that doesn't work well with the Legion mechanic.

But I do like the Spiders.

Question - Is it viable to use Spiders with Frost Sentinels? Or is the DPS loss from the multimodded weapon too much?

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Sleuther wrote:

Don't really like the Enhanced Vaal Spectres. Too slow, sloppy AI that doesn't work well with the Legion mechanic.

But I do like the Spiders.

Question - Is it viable to use Spiders with Frost Sentinels? Or is the DPS loss from the multimodded weapon too much?

It is completely viable. There is no dps loss, quite the contrary if you take into account the spiders deeps. Plus both summons benefit from hatred aura.

i've been looking into Magritte's Frost Sentinel Crit build you posted in the alternate build section. How do you rate it in comparison with your SG and Spiders / Vaal Fallen ?

I mean,Your build using SG/FS/Spiders vs Magritte's build.
Is that build up to date ?

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Sleuther wrote:

Don't really like the Enhanced Vaal Spectres. Too slow, sloppy AI that doesn't work well with the Legion mechanic.

But I do like the Spiders.

Question - Is it viable to use Spiders with Frost Sentinels? Or is the DPS loss from the multimodded weapon too much?

The Enhanced Vaal are super clunky, but it's nice to not have a screen covered in brightly coloured fireballs or ice spears, so I'm sticking with it for now.

Frost Sentinels + Spiders would be great.

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Mantikera wrote:

i've been looking into Magritte's Frost Sentinel Crit build you posted in the alternate build section. How do you rate it in comparison with your SG and Spiders / Vaal Fallen ?

I mean,Your build using SG/FS/Spiders vs Magritte's build.
Is that build up to date ?

Magritte's build is really good, but it's very expensive because of the Aul amulet. If you have the currency to build it, it's worth using.

SGs are the easy option for this league. You can get them to a good level without needing a lot of currency.

Vaal + Spiders is not recommended. I use it because I've done the other spectres to death :)

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gromkins wrote:

On another note it doesn't seem like phase acrobatics is worth it. Armor/HP/block you have all the time which seems better than 30%ish chance to dodge. Am I missing something?

It may seem like that, but from my own experience acrobatics helps a lot. The current tree was created because I was pushing delve. The older version of this build hit a brick wall around 650 depth because almost all incoming damage was one-shotting me.

The problem with block is that spell block is a lot harder to get. I'm not sure if there's a way to get 40% spell block from just a few passive + a flask like you can with spell dodge.

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redix27 wrote:

@kayella how re-spawn spiders? and who must to kill all of them?

Desecrate+flask? or flask + desecrate?

Sometimes i cannot to re-spawm all of them...

Run away and find a clear area. Then desecrate + storm brand + flask. If you're in trouble, you can just 1x desecrate to get 6 spiders, so you have some minions to do damage. Then summon more after the area is safe.

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Spiga wrote:

please check my character
I tried this build but
Why is my damage so low?
what do i need to do?

Your character looks fine.

Did you resummon your spectre in a high tier zone?

One thing to do is keep an eye on global 820 and wait for 'shaper portal for spectres'. Ask to join and resummon all your spectres in shaper's realm. They will be level 84 (max level) and should do a lot of dps.

Hey,
i have a short question. Every time, i looked out, my AG is gone and i must resummon it.
Has anyone the same problem?

Hey all just wanted to share how the standard build with solar guards performs in comaprison to the enhanced vaal and spiders version; i have used dark forest as demo. It should put some worries to rest about dps and legion/ high tier mapping survivability of the standard build in 3.7.

https://youtu.be/E8QVY2WcqRM

Did uber elder with fire eater build last league but havnt tried any in 3.7 yet.