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MrNonamer wrote:
Hi Kay, thanks for your build!

I am at endgame gates currently (T16 maps, AL5 etc.), and while mapping and clear are surprisingly good, I am having HUGE problems with boss dps at engdame encounters:

- I did white the Forgotten invitation (Distant memories bosses) and it took me so long to kill them, maybe 5-6 minutes or so
- I tried rare the Formed invitation with 35% boss hp (Mino, Hydra etc) and failed, because their health bar was almost not moving, and my zombies kept dieing

I have some decent gear (+1/+1 wand, +1 amulet, four lvl 25 SO spectres, lvl 21 Vaal skeletos gem etc), so have no idea what to do now... Maybe someone could help?

My pob: https://pastebin.com/euXcuY4m


Hi MrNonamer

i had a look at your char and gems
gear look nice but i was wondering why you use spellecho ?
if you using SO its a waste

Last edited by syquest#2000 on Jul 29, 2021, 7:59:32 AM
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syquest wrote:
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MrNonamer wrote:
Hi Kay, thanks for your build!

I am at endgame gates currently (T16 maps, AL5 etc.), and while mapping and clear are surprisingly good, I am having HUGE problems with boss dps at engdame encounters:

- I did white the Forgotten invitation (Distant memories bosses) and it took me so long to kill them, maybe 5-6 minutes or so
- I tried rare the Formed invitation with 35% boss hp (Mino, Hydra etc) and failed, because their health bar was almost not moving, and my zombies kept dieing

I have some decent gear (+1/+1 wand, +1 amulet, four lvl 25 SO spectres, lvl 21 Vaal skeletos gem etc), so have no idea what to do now... Maybe someone could help?

My pob: https://pastebin.com/euXcuY4m


Hi MrNonamer

i had a look at your char and gems
gear look nice but i was wondering why you use spellecho ?
if you using SO its a waste


Oh, I thought Spell Echo is used with all spectres. Thanks! Changed it to Added Cold Damage, which PoB shows as +34% dps increase, appreciate it
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MrNonamer wrote:
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syquest wrote:
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MrNonamer wrote:
Hi Kay, thanks for your build!

I am at endgame gates currently (T16 maps, AL5 etc.), and while mapping and clear are surprisingly good, I am having HUGE problems with boss dps at engdame encounters:

- I did white the Forgotten invitation (Distant memories bosses) and it took me so long to kill them, maybe 5-6 minutes or so
- I tried rare the Formed invitation with 35% boss hp (Mino, Hydra etc) and failed, because their health bar was almost not moving, and my zombies kept dieing

I have some decent gear (+1/+1 wand, +1 amulet, four lvl 25 SO spectres, lvl 21 Vaal skeletos gem etc), so have no idea what to do now... Maybe someone could help?

My pob: https://pastebin.com/euXcuY4m


Hi MrNonamer

i had a look at your char and gems
gear look nice but i was wondering why you use spellecho ?
if you using SO its a waste


Oh, I thought Spell Echo is used with all spectres. Thanks! Changed it to Added Cold Damage, which PoB shows as +34% dps increase, appreciate it


a better option would be Vicious Projectiles Support or Hypothermia Support
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Soltes wrote:
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Singulare wrote:
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Soltes wrote:
Hi everyone !
Loving the build and finally started maps despite my really little play time.
I see the recommended spectres but they need special things to be obtained (Baran's maps, Syndicate hideout, etc...)

Any tips on which spectres to take to begin maps ?

Thanks !

i started maps with the frost auto sentries and still use them (currently at tier 14 maps)
although they only feel good with GMP which i only added later because of too little dex for it (and ended up taking a +30 dex passive tree point)


That sounds nice but on PoeDB I don't see where I can find it, it just seems to be Heist monster but nothing more detailed... Any idea how I can see ?

It's described in section 5 of the second post where all recommended Spectres are mentioned and where to find them. For FAS its repository and Tunnel Heists.
Last edited by Singulare#6376 on Jul 29, 2021, 8:35:51 AM
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MrNonamer wrote:
Hi Kay, thanks for your build!

I am at endgame gates currently (T16 maps, AL5 etc.), and while mapping and clear are surprisingly good, I am having HUGE problems with boss dps at engdame encounters:

- I did white the Forgotten invitation (Distant memories bosses) and it took me so long to kill them, maybe 5-6 minutes or so
- I tried rare the Formed invitation with 35% boss hp (Mino, Hydra etc) and failed, because their health bar was almost not moving, and my zombies kept dieing

I have some decent gear (+1/+1 wand, +1 amulet, four lvl 25 SO spectres, lvl 21 Vaal skeletos gem etc), so have no idea what to do now... Maybe someone could help?

My pob: https://pastebin.com/euXcuY4m



Ghoul Knot ring has "adds 1 to 2 cold damage" this is activating your EE giving mobs +25% cold resist.

Last edited by Gykki#1526 on Jul 29, 2021, 11:24:04 AM
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Gykki wrote:
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MrNonamer wrote:
Hi Kay, thanks for your build!

I am at endgame gates currently (T16 maps, AL5 etc.), and while mapping and clear are surprisingly good, I am having HUGE problems with boss dps at engdame encounters:

- I did white the Forgotten invitation (Distant memories bosses) and it took me so long to kill them, maybe 5-6 minutes or so
- I tried rare the Formed invitation with 35% boss hp (Mino, Hydra etc) and failed, because their health bar was almost not moving, and my zombies kept dieing

I have some decent gear (+1/+1 wand, +1 amulet, four lvl 25 SO spectres, lvl 21 Vaal skeletos gem etc), so have no idea what to do now... Maybe someone could help?

My pob: https://pastebin.com/euXcuY4m



Ghoul Knot ring has "adds 1 to 2 cold damage" this is activating your EE giving mobs +25% cold resist.


But the mod is 'adds cold damage to attachs', and I do not attack
You attack with Armageddon brand for the Hextouch/frostbite & activating EE for fire and cold from the added cold 1-2. Might have that wrong with attacks/spells, just following the rule never use "added cold".

Last edited by Gykki#1526 on Jul 29, 2021, 12:34:10 PM
Sorry for the total noob question, even though I've been playing for several years now...

With the Spectre gem in the 6-link, will the +1 to minion gems in the Convoking Wand affect the spectre gem even though it's not socketed in the wand?


Been playing minion army variant for a while but spectres deal next to no damage (using frost auto scout).

This is the first time a summoner build felt lacking in damage for me. I know my gear is quite trash but wasn't the strong point of summoners that the dmg comes from gems and levels rather than gear?

Level 25 Spectre, Level 25 VSS, and t10 map bosses take 2 minutes to kill...
Question: Spectres and Zombies dying, mostly to things like Al-Hezmin Degen, but also just happens sometimes, what might I do? I've got all the defensive passives from the Minion Army guide, my gem level is only 22, was waiting to level a 21/20%. Short of swapping to the terrible boots of Ullr I'm not sure how to get minion levels cheaply, they tend to cost several ex, and while I can trade at that level, it's a lot of farming for a meh item giving only one or two important stats.

So I could use some advice. I'm doing fine, my spectre damage is low against bosses but the skeletons more than make up for it and I do up to t12 almost effortlessly. I'm nearly unkillable, which I think is why I'm pushing content killing my minions. Anyone have any advice or am I basically just stuck on gem levels now? Of course my zombies die sometimes too, especially to degen they won't get out of. Slowing my down.

Doing great compared to my usual though. Also grats on most popular guide!

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