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Severinze wrote:

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Friicyan wrote:

Hello, I'm looking for a league starter build for Heist, it's my second league and I'm not very familiar with PoE so I've a question.
This stuff is also viable in 3.12 or needs some changes ?
I feel like I may like this build but I don't wanna waste my time with an out-of-date build.

Thanks for your answers and good new league.

Hey there, exile. Kay's guide is absolutely top-tier and she is working hard to update the build, guide and POB's in preparation for launch tomorrow. If you're in search of a good league starter, look no further.

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Sazzbot wrote:

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Vaildez wrote:

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Navezz wrote:

Aside from RS and RK, which spectres doesn't die on red maps?

Someone linked this earlier. Doesn't reflect the recent nerfs to RK and RS but theres quite a few decent options. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12y6-oojO6uFwOrYalUkN2vXBMpQJl4qjK6NhSq3KWjE/edit#gid=1423148101 . I am going to start with SD's then move onto Baranite Thaumaturge and then maybe see how RS are doing.

do you know if elemental penetration support will be good?

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Sazzbot wrote:

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Vaildez wrote:

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Navezz wrote:

Aside from RS and RK, which spectres doesn't die on red maps?

Someone linked this earlier. Doesn't reflect the recent nerfs to RK and RS but theres quite a few decent options. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12y6-oojO6uFwOrYalUkN2vXBMpQJl4qjK6NhSq3KWjE/edit#gid=1423148101 . I am going to start with SD's then move onto Baranite Thaumaturge and then maybe see how RS are doing.

do you know if elemental penetration support will be good?

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Navezz wrote:

Aside from RS and RK, which spectres doesn't die on red maps?

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ElCatti wrote:

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Severinze wrote:

How tanky is the build looking after the offering/block nerfs? I absolutely hate dying.

It will still be fucking tanky if you go for block without GB and reach 50% spell block.
If you check my forum history you can see the list with easily available def options while still reaching 2-2,5 million dps per spectre, maybe even more.

Im only sad about the Divine Flesh nerf, it was really strong but good luck getting enough chaos res without chaos anyway and you can still get to 88/90% max chaos res kinda easy with a cluster jewel.

That said im thinking about going for golems this league, just for some change after 4x Spectres in a row. :-D

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kayella wrote:

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ElCatti wrote:

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Severinze wrote:

How tanky is the build looking after the offering/block nerfs? I absolutely hate dying.

It will still be fucking tanky if you go for block without GB and reach 50% spell block.
If you check my forum history you can see the list with easily available def options while still reaching 2-2,5 million dps per spectre, maybe even more.

Im only sad about the Divine Flesh nerf, it was really strong but good luck getting enough chaos res without chaos anyway and you can still get to 88/90% max chaos res kinda easy with a cluster jewel.

That said im thinking about going for golems this league, just for some change after 4x Spectres in a row. :-D

I think GB is actually not good for summoner anyway because mapping monsters are usually not strong. But if you have GB against endgame boss, then even on block, you can still get 'oneshot' (maybe). At least 50% pure block is 100% no damage. That's why I didn't put it in my guide.

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ZeroCloud wrote:

Can someone give me a simple high level explanation of the difference between Kay's and Ghazzy's Spectre build?

I haven't done Spectre's before and I like to research and understand. As I am reviewing Kay's and Ghazzy's guides I am struggling to identify significant differences in approaches because I don't know the build well yet. Like is one significantly more damage, one more layered defenses, one requires more button pushing and maintenance during gameplay, etc...

I'm not looking for personal opinions on what is better or anything negative, just some assistance in understanding their approaches to help me make my own decision. Thanks!