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sneakyJ wrote:
I been running the spider build for awhile now. I lose the spiders often enough it gets me killed. I looked around my tree and equipment and can't figure out why they periodically die off.


I have been running the Spiders version so far and I only occasionally run into the problem. I think your problem is you are not casting desecrate often enough.

Also the build is not meant to be used without a writhing jar if you dont know what you are doing or running maps with bosses in a separate room/phased bosses/No minion bosses.

This is strictly meant for maps like City Square, Promenade types where you just rush the boss as if they are just another rare pack.

Also if you are not using animate guardian, you may also want to consider specking out of plaguebringer and opt for mistress of sacrifice. You will lose a bit of damage (10% less) but you will have 30% increased minion duration and skill duration and you can then use bone offering to compensate for loss of DR from plague bringer. Use desecrate + spell cascade and Bone offering in-lieu of Animate guardian.

I have made a few changes myself to the S&S build as per my taste.

Not using AG or Cinderswallow, so instead using a Writhing jar all the time and linked Divine Ire + CwC + Frostbite. This way Divine ire does dual purpose as worm killer as well as cast Frost bite on Bosses when I channel it.

I have 6K life and 500ES so only die to one shots. A couple of gear pieces still need further crafting/replacement. SO far its working absolutely fine. The first 2 jewels go into darkness enthroned to give almost 70% increased minion damage and approx 47 to 53 minion physical damage which is pretty good and some additional resistance.





Last edited by spacenoxx#5671 on Jul 30, 2020, 7:23:00 PM
Guys if u run pure spectre and have 7l helmet, what is the best way to utilize 6l in body armour? Currently im thinking about running 6l zombie for more additional damage source but what u guys think?
Is my character visible? LtDenebX

Im running single cluster crit jewels. I thought minion DOT is considered your kill, so I assumed that the spiders were self sustaining.

It's less about the writhing worms for bosses and more like they just randomly drop off during mapping and it doesn't make any sense because I am running the maps pretty fast.

I am running AG with blind armour and dying breath for now. Not overly focused on the upgrade yet. I really want to figure out this spider situation before I commit more currency that can be lost easily.
Last edited by sneakyJ#1611 on Jul 30, 2020, 7:43:44 PM
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sneakyJ wrote:
Is my character visible? LtDenebX

Im running single cluster crit jewels. I thought minion DOT is considered your kill, so I assumed that the spiders were self sustaining.

It's less about the writhing worms for bosses and more like they just randomly drop off during mapping and it doesn't make any sense because I am running the maps pretty fast.

I am running AG with blind armour and dying breath for now. Not overly focused on the upgrade yet. I really want to figure out this spider situation before I commit more currency that can be lost easily.


Spiders only last for about 45 seconds which is not much. And I think you have way too much minion movement speed so the spiders are probably never near you If you notice Kays video even she doesnt always sustain the spiders and they drop off sometimes but the sentries freeze and almost kill everything in sight and all u have to do is tap them with desecrate to restart the spider spawning process. Make note of her point in her video guide at 4:12 mark and also notice that she was down to 2-3 spiders during the breach and at the end of boss fight.
Truly loving this build I am playing S&S, I am having an issue with the spiders though. Elemental proliferation freezes enemies which is awesome but at the same time it ignites enemies, allowing RS to kill enemies and then spiders never spawn because I can't desecrate enemies... Not sure what I'm doing wrong... As far as I know RS shouldn't be killing enemies.
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Ayam1414 wrote:
Guys if u run pure spectre and have 7l helmet, what is the best way to utilize 6l in body armour? Currently im thinking about running 6l zombie for more additional damage source but what u guys think?


May be have a beefed up AG with Minion life and meatshield and a raize zombie carrion golem to go with?
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spacenoxx wrote:
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Ayam1414 wrote:
Guys if u run pure spectre and have 7l helmet, what is the best way to utilize 6l in body armour? Currently im thinking about running 6l zombie for more additional damage source but what u guys think?


May be have a beefed up AG with Minion life and meatshield and a raize zombie carrion golem to go with?


ok thanks man for the suggestion
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Guitarmaster52 wrote:
Truly loving this build I am playing S&S, I am having an issue with the spiders though. Elemental proliferation freezes enemies which is awesome but at the same time it ignites enemies, allowing RS to kill enemies and then spiders never spawn because I can't desecrate enemies... Not sure what I'm doing wrong... As far as I know RS shouldn't be killing enemies.


RS's do only Phys and Phys to Cold as far as I know. So where is the fire and ignite coming from? Do you have any minions do x-y fire damage mods on jewels?
Well I use dash and quicksilvers so I am usually right on top of the spiders per pack and I also use convocation all the time so I am almost never not around when they are killing.

They are fast but I dash into the packs as the animation is going off for viper strike and things are dying.

What is the criteria for the spider casting? Do I have to be a certain distance from the enemy? On top of them?

Sorry I never played with arakaali's before. Even with the kinks I am having, its tons of fun.
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sl_Danglars wrote:
Rumi's Concoction (recommended unique flask) replaces which default flask for league starter?
Basalt, Jade, Quarts (and why?)

Several pages ago, I asked this question and didn't see a response. Is there any preference within this build, Kay?

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