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elgranlector wrote:

Ended up going Divine Flesh, and it feel really good, got 89% chaos res, but i can get it to 90%. 77% fire, cold and lightning res.

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I guess my next upgrades would have to be an actual good wand, and try to go for gg helmet to finally scale crit and make my cluster worth their price.
I am using awakened curse on hit + profane proxy to double curse, not using projectile weakness since i am using Awakened Chain and I dont feel it is needed, using temporal chains instead as additional defence.

Things I would like to try are awakened fork instead of chain (anybody got some feedback on this?), maybe +1 body armour curse so I can triple curse.

my gear so far:

Things I would like to try are awakened fork instead of chain (anybody got some feedback on this?), maybe +1 body armour curse so I can triple curse.

I like your version! I tried Divine Flesh in 3.10 with a different tree (change Pain Attunment), but I like how you use Unwavering Stance to change.

Do you mind if I copy your gear for a guide update (just forum guide)?



About awakened fork, it can hit more monsters, but projectiles fly in straight line away. Chain is nice because it can fly in ang direction , even backwards. I still prefer GMP + Pierce.

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DreamerUSA wrote:

I play on console and setting up the cast while attacking for Steelskin doesn't work on consoles. What would you suggest in its place? Animate Guardian? CWDT setup?

BTW great guide. Never played a summoner before, but wanted to try one out on the cheap so I went with your SSF build and have been surprised by how much I like the game play. Thank you.

CWDT + Steelskin will work too! Main difference is it will help for after you are hit. You will need to test different levels of CWDT. I recommend something around 30-50% of your life pool. So level 15 if you have 6000 life.

@kay

Could you make a specter showcase for use with spiders focusing on killing bosses?

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Zickakiller wrote:

@kay
I was watching your videos and I came across the EVF. I took the folder and put it in my pocket, made some adjustments to adapt it to the S&S. I am using a critical cluster configuration. My question is that I should consider the very high dps that the EVF has with the Elemental Hit or not, because it was a big damage jump of 2.7k RK and went to 3.7kk of EVF. is this how it should work? I saw the EVF POB with double cluster at 3.10 and the damage was absurd. here's my pob, in case anyone knows something to add.
https://pastebin.com/qwAQLeF5

Thank you very much for your help now!

EVF is a little complicated. The damage is not calculated correctly in POB :(

They use a random element for each hit, but POB will just show you all the hits as a big combination. So you need to look at the calcs page. For damage, focus on cold damage is best because they do physical conversion like redemption knight. The cold hit will be very big, lightning hit medium, fire hit very weak (because of EE).

So when you use them, the damage is random. Sometimes they will blow up the boss (all cold hits) and sometimes it can be a little slower (hit with fire). Redemption Knight has less damage, but it is always the same.

I've asked this multiple times but never got an answer. In what way can I improve this character, so I hit 2.5m-3m+ shaper dps with my gear? And how would I make this CI instead of life based?
https://pastebin.com/7ZkNivFA

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trancenergy11 wrote:

I want to contribute with a few top-end gear crafting methods:

Hatred +2 wand. Crafting budget : 15ex (if rolling fossils); 25 ex if buying base. Sells for 40ex to infinity depending on your rolls.

1. Get an i80+ wand and roll it with fossils until u get +2 with at least t4 minion damage. Or u can buy a base with these prefixes for about 15ex - make sure it is not fractured or synthesized or influenced or else u cant slam redeemer later. But rolling the fossils pays for itself since 10 rolls cost about 3-4ex while rolling +2 at least once will already pay for the crafting materials (sells for at least 3ex).

Just a word of caution. The weights on hitting +2 are extremely low. +1 Level of all Spell Skill Gems has a weight of 50. +1 to Level of all Minion Skill gems is 125. Whereas all of the suffixes are close to or over 1000. Unless you have a stroke of luck you won't hit this in 10 tries. I hit my current want in 25 attempts. ~15c for Fossils and 70-90c per resonator. I'm over 30 attempts at crafting my next wand. It's not cheap unless you get lucky.

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kayella wrote:

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Zickakiller wrote:

@kay
I was watching your videos and I came across the EVF. I took the folder and put it in my pocket, made some adjustments to adapt it to the S&S. I am using a critical cluster configuration. My question is that I should consider the very high dps that the EVF has with the Elemental Hit or not, because it was a big damage jump of 2.7k RK and went to 3.7kk of EVF. is this how it should work? I saw the EVF POB with double cluster at 3.10 and the damage was absurd. here's my pob, in case anyone knows something to add.
https://pastebin.com/qwAQLeF5

Thank you very much for your help now!

EVF is a little complicated. The damage is not calculated correctly in POB :(

They use a random element for each hit, but POB will just show you all the hits as a big combination. So you need to look at the calcs page. For damage, focus on cold damage is best because they do physical conversion like redemption knight. The cold hit will be very big, lightning hit medium, fire hit very weak (because of EE).

So when you use them, the damage is random. Sometimes they will blow up the boss (all cold hits) and sometimes it can be a little slower (hit with fire). Redemption Knight has less damage, but it is always the same.

I understand thank you very much for your reply. <3
as I asked above, do you have any synergy of spectra for a big boss burst? in mapping there are no problems the spiders can handle but in boss it’s kind of complicated to invoke the spiders

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Níghty wrote:

I've asked this multiple times but never got an answer. In what way can I improve this character, so I hit 2.5m-3m+ shaper dps with my gear? And how would I make this CI instead of life based?
https://pastebin.com/7ZkNivFA

To add to this, putting my gear inside the one cluster setup only reduces dps by 300k, so I'm not sure why my damage is only 1.9m or so per spectre.

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hogpeuf707 wrote:

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trancenergy11 wrote:

I want to contribute with a few top-end gear crafting methods:

Hatred +2 wand. Crafting budget : 15ex (if rolling fossils); 25 ex if buying base. Sells for 40ex to infinity depending on your rolls.

1. Get an i80+ wand and roll it with fossils until u get +2 with at least t4 minion damage. Or u can buy a base with these prefixes for about 15ex - make sure it is not fractured or synthesized or influenced or else u cant slam redeemer later. But rolling the fossils pays for itself since 10 rolls cost about 3-4ex while rolling +2 at least once will already pay for the crafting materials (sells for at least 3ex).

Just a word of caution. The weights on hitting +2 are extremely low. +1 Level of all Spell Skill Gems has a weight of 50. +1 to Level of all Minion Skill gems is 125. Whereas all of the suffixes are close to or over 1000. Unless you have a stroke of luck you won't hit this in 10 tries. I hit my current want in 25 attempts. ~15c for Fossils and 70-90c per resonator. I'm over 30 attempts at crafting my next wand. It's not cheap unless you get lucky.

I'm not 100% sure but i think the resonator roll works slightly differently than taking account pure weights. It rolls prefixes from a pool of 4 different ones. And i would assume that the amount of rolled prefixes (1-3) has its own separate flip. So if you roll spell damage and minion damage for example and your wand rolls a 3rd prefix its guaranteed to hit one of the +1s.

I've done about 25 rolls now. Hit 3 +2, about 10-15 +1s and the rest were missed. So the actual % of positive outcome is higher than fail. Ofc course rolling +2 and minion damage is pretty rare and rolling high minion damage is even more rare. But i've put this method as a cheaper but much longer way (since u will have to buy the resonators 1 a time and than sell everything u rolled) of getting a 15ex base. If u have 15ex to spend just buy the base and don't bother.

And the price of resonator dropped a lot. U can get them for 40-50c. Full fossil package maybe like 10-20c. And a +1 will sell for 50-100c guaranteed (+1 spell skills always sells for 100). I've sold every single one of the +1s - lots of new necros thnx to this guide and they don't even care if you can craft trigger on it. Also it's easy just opening the suffs for trigger urself - just use the harvest keep pref, reroll suff.

A question about the bone helm:

it seems pretty easy to roll without the essence. How big would the dps difference be.
Because rolling all that while trying to keep the essence mod seems like an insane amount of currency.