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Im going the league starter build is there any changes I should be doing if Im using slave drivers.

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SupaSlacka wrote:

Im going the league starter build is there any changes I should be doing if Im using slave drivers.

nope, Kay cover most of the stuff already.
but you can use profane proxy+curse.
So you dont need "curse on hit support"

What auras do people like for this build? I'm running Arakaali's Fang and Enhanced Vaal Fallen, and I'm currently using Haste, Hatred, and Aspect of the Avian. If I can get a fourth aura from Aul's Uprising and playing with helm enchants or an influenced shield, what auras should I consider?

I'm thinking Wrath or Precision depending on much mana reservation I can find. Thoughts?

Is running a +1 to all intelligence spell gems stronger than a +30% or more to minion damage on the amulet?

Hi, i'm still playing the base build with slave drivers.

Which one you think could be the best between these two:



lioneye gives me 210 life and 230% armour but i'm slower

skull sanctuary has the spell damage boost, a good life roll of 99 and the 5% life recover when block. I add also the armor boost during soul gain prevention cause i always use vaal summon skeletons to compensate the 230% more armor of the lioneye.

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DioKen95 wrote:

Hi, i'm still playing the base build with slave drivers.

Which one you think could be the best between these two:

lioneye gives me 210 life and 230% armour but i'm slower

skull sanctuary has the spell damage boost, a good life roll of 99 and the 5% life recover when block. I add also the armor boost during soul gain prevention cause i always use vaal summon skeletons to compensate the 230% more armor of the lioneye.

I dont think spell damage boost will boost your spectre.

Just to be sure. My skitterbots are showing 82% shock effectiveness, so I should use 41% on POB?

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wallypoe wrote:

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ShmooDude wrote:

Roughly the same for bosses but crit better for mapping. Enough better for the cost? Maybe not.

P.S. @wallypoe can you pastebin your build you were doing the testing on, the numbers seem really off to me and I wonder if the rest of your tree is different enough to make the aura build better.

I create a dummy build with both Critial & lightning cluster
Feel free to mix & match to see the dps.
https://pastebin.com/k63p8bTW

Remember the shocked is count twice so make sure put only put half number
for example, lv 20 skitterbot is 22% increase, base damaged taken is 15%, so 15*1.22=18.3, so you put 9
for 2 overshcok, it's increase another 60%, so 15*1.82=27.3, so you put 13

So basically, you're ignoring renewal because you don't have "are your minions always on full life" checked. This basically makes it a dead node and is where most of the discrepancy came from.

Elemental Equilibrium was not being used (not talented and "Enemy was Hit by Fire Damage" setting).

Likewise, you were also not simulating bosses (boss setting at no). I usually go with Sirus. The resistances gained are cancelled out by EE above but there's still less curse effectiveness (66% Sirus/Shaper/Elder, 33% regular bosses)

I also turned on Deathmark and Frenzy charges although I expect those to be equal for each build.

I did not add feeding frenzy though I don't expect it'd matter in terms of comparing the two builds. Power Charge on Crit and Assassin's mark were both strictly worse in all situations and not used.

0.978m - 2x crit/renew large / 4x crit medium - Minions NOT Full life
1.011m - 2x crit/renew large / 4x first among equals medium - Minions NOT Full life
1.017m - 2x overshock large / 4x first among equals medium - extra nodes not spent on damage
1.166m - 2x crit/renew large / 4x crit medium - Minions Full life
1.205m - 2x crit/renew large / 4x first among equals medium - Minions Full life
1.221m - 2x overshock large / 4x first among equals medium - +38% Minion Damage with saved nodes
1.273m - 2x overshock large / 4x first among equals medium - full Enduring Bond wheel with saved nodes

In either case, while bossing First Among Equals is better than Precise Commander due to lack of power charges. Precise wins with power charges for the crit build (not listed).

Lightning large wins for bossing if you spend your 4 saved nodes on extra Minion Damage nodes in the main passive tree. This didn't really work on my Delirium character because it has a 240% Minion Damage Elegant Hubris and so extra Minion Damage wasn't worth as much. However without that, the extra Minion Damage really helps the lightning cluster build because it's missing about 60% from the minion cluster (Feasting Fiends plus 2 10% fillers).