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Got pretty lucky and hit this tonight...

Since I hit it, I decided my luck at an Elder/Shaper bone helmet....that was not nearly as lucky of an outcome :)

I had made a herald build but have been eyeing redemption sentries all league.

I don't know what to do with the wand now tbh.

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wasabexx wrote:

On a side note, for Redemption Sentries, Projectile Weakness is better than Elemental Weakness as a curse. It takes 155 Dex so it might not work for every build, but if you are running RS and have the required dex, then it will give you slightly better DPS.

Yes and no. At about 20% cold resistance they're tied. Less than that and Projectile Weakness wins, More and Frostbite/Elemental Weakness wins.

Since Elemental Equilibrium gives -50% resistance, most of the time Projectile Weakness will win assuming EE is applied. So if you're using Curse on Hit then yes Projectile Weakness will likely be better. If on the other hand you're using Blasphemy, Frostbite/Elemental Weakness has an advantage as it's better before EE is applied, which happens quite a bit while clearing.

There's also the elemental resistance map affix. Elemental Weakness will win here.

If you're using crit spectres, there's also Assassin's Mark. DPS is a little lower, but it can provide a higher chance to freeze than even Frostbite if you have enough increased crit chance for your spectres. Projectile Weakness also can't be gotten by other methods (as far as I know) while Elemental Weakness, Frostbite and Assassin's Mark are available on glove corruptions and/or influence ring affixes.

You're right in that PW is better in a lot of situations, but it's not so much better that the others should never be used.

Why does the Spectre/Spider with Redemption Sentries use Power Charge on Critical? The shield already gives 10% power charge on kill to allies so my units always all have 3x power charge, even when not using that gem.

I think it would be better to switch to anythign else... elemental focus, awakened vicious proj, or deathmark. Currently using elemental focus instead of the power charge on crit.

LMK if I'm thinking about it wrong... thanks!

I've uploaded another video. It's probably the last big video for 3.10.

There were a lot of new spectres in 3.10 and many people were excited to try monsters like Thaumaturge or War Maiden. But after a lot of testing, only a small number are actually good. Redemption Sentry and Knight are the big stars. I think hatred aura stacking helped them a lot.

I finished the 40 challenges with Knights and I like them more than Sentries because melee spectres are more fun to play for me. But I wanted to have a look at Enhanced Vaal Fallen again. Especially with double clusters.

I kinda forgot about them because I was using Knights and Sentries most of league. And I actually never made a showcase even though I always recommend them for bossing. I also record a lot of boss kills with them (and never upload anything). So the new video is an EVF bossing showcase! They are still my favourite bossing spectre!


PoE 3.10 - Spectre Showcase: Enhanced Vaal Fallen vs Endgame Bosses

I added the chapters to the video now, so you can jump to different parts of the video easily!



POB is basically the same as Double cluster. Only two gems are different:
1. Arma Brand for EE/CoH
2. Ele Weakness curse

The POB has special editing to show correct Elemental Hit for EVF. But it makes the DPS summary completely wrong! Please read the special notes. It is also in the POB.



POB: https://pastebin.com/Man6YSzb

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DubyaC wrote:

Why does the Spectre/Spider with Redemption Sentries use Power Charge on Critical? The shield already gives 10% power charge on kill to allies so my units always all have 3x power charge, even when not using that gem.

I think it would be better to switch to anythign else... elemental focus, awakened vicious proj, or deathmark. Currently using elemental focus instead of the power charge on crit.

LMK if I'm thinking about it wrong... thanks!

Yes, change the gem. PCoC is from early league and I was trying to increase crit chance, but there are better way to get more damage now.

If yyou want more damage use Vicious Proj or Ele Damage.

Ele Focus stops freeze and chill.

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ShmooDude wrote:

You're right in that PW is better in a lot of situations, but it's not so much better that the others should never be used.

It also depends your gems/jewels.

For my gear, I tested in POB and just changed the curse.

Average damage:
Frostbite = 2.756M
Proj weakness = 2.758M
Asassin's mark = 2.595M (power charge unticked)

The damage is all very close. So use the onee which has good secondary mod.

Frostbite has extra freeze chance.
Proj Weakness has pierce and knockback.
Asassin has power charge on kill.

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rhapsodieinblue wrote:

Got pretty lucky and hit this tonight...

Since I hit it, I decided my luck at an Elder/Shaper bone helmet....that was not nearly as lucky of an outcome :)

I had made a herald build but have been eyeing redemption sentries all league.

I don't know what to do with the wand now tbh.

Keep it and use it! Herald is powerful but kinda boring, so try Redemption Sentry with double cluster before 3.11.

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wasabexx wrote:

Does that make sense? So "socketed spells have +2% critical chance" is compatible with the Raise Spectre gem since it is a spell, and it would help out Slave Drivers a lot since they use spells, but it won't help RS at all because they don't use spells.

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arikshkol wrote:

my bet would be that:
"socketed spells have +2% critical chance"- is raising the critical strike chance for sure
and "socketed attacks have +% critical chance"- is raising the critical strike chance at certain conditions when using the socketed attack because of a coding loophole

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ShmooDude wrote:

"+2% to Critical Strike Chance"

... with no mention of Minions. And as we all know, if it doesn't specifically mention minions, it doesn't apply to them. So I'm not really sure it works at all.

I was thinking about support gems in POE and also support gem mod.

We have easy mods like 'socketed gems are supported by concentrated effect'. Conc effect doesn't have minion tag, but it supports linked minions. It has aoe tag, and SD spell also has aoe. When we use it, SD spell becomes very small. So we know it works.

'Power Charge On Critical Support' only has tag 'support'. But we know it works with minions because minions get power charges.

So I thought 'socketed spells have 2% critical chance' is similar. It is like support and it is only for spells. Raise Spectre is socketed in the and it is also spell gem. So it works.


I could be completely wrong though!

Ok so I went ahead and just tested it ingame. I crafted 2 helmets, one elder with "socketed attacks have +3% to critical strike chance" and the other a shaper with "socketed spells have +3% to critical strike chance".

Then I run blood aquaducts with 3 different setups - first setup was with a regular helmet (no mods) with raise spectre and power charge on critical. Next I ran it with the elder helmet, and finally with the shaper helmet.

First of all, there is some RNG involved, because my base crit is 12.5%, and PCoC is 35%, so that's avg of 4.375% chance for my redeption sentries to get a power charge. But, at least I can visually SEE when it happens.

So for the regular helmet, it was about what was expected, they rarely got power charges on my runs.

For the Elder helmet with "socketed ATTACKS have +3% to critical strike chance", it was exactly the same, they rarely got power charges.

But for the Shaper helmet with "socketed SPELLS have +3% to critical strike chance", now they got power charges often! And since power charges help to get other power charges, they would often get 2-3 per pack.

So in conclusion, even though there is some RNG involved, it was very clear to me that the Shaper enchant "socketed spells have +% to critical strike chance" WORKS, even for spectres that don't use spells.

So it looks like PoB was correct! (and I was wrong lol)

Hello, POB(FC) show 2kk damage on reremption sentry with solo gems and about 1kk LMP+pierce, with almost the same equip on 1108page(double cluster) With frenzy charge on RS + feeding frenzy and etc

I think this is smth wrong, but what exactly? profile is open.