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SapphironPL wrote:

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DontRepairYourselfMind wrote:

Crit RS build destroys whole game atm.

Ook, so which one is it? Gear and tree?

Bump

https://pastebin.com/tMcgnUXt

I have 80ex to spare. what can I buy to make this build godly?

TIA

Hey guys!
Its worth keeping? No minion dmg mode but 2x +1skill
And free space for trigger

is there any semi good gem links for 4 blue 1 white 1 red spectre armor for redemption sentries? going to have to farm some vorci benches to re color later

Can someone help me with RS? @Lineofrain

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kayella wrote:

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Kusanagix wrote:

@Kayella I wanted to know whether investing into crit is worth it. I've been running around with Assasin's mark and got 2 cluster jewels with Precise Command and Vengeful. What else would i need to make it worth it? I'm really looking for ways to up my DPS and I feel like this is the best way. I think i'm struggling for 100% delirious with the aura stacking set up. Do i just need 2 more megalomaniacs with vicious bite for it to be worth?

For more damage, you need another 15-20 passive points to get second jewel cluster. So, you have to give up survivability (life passive) or damage (minion damage passive). You can get 6M Redemption Sentry, but your HP will be 6k.

I will try to summarise:

Full crit stacking
Best damage. You get high damage from crit multi. High crit chance for freeze and shatter. Very expensive.
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Full Aura stacking
has a little less damage. It just uses hatred boosting. Needs curse for freeze shatter. Cheap.
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Hybrid aura / crit
Medium cost.
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You can also use Spectres and Spiders setup with any of these as well (though might not be worth it on the full crit). I'm doing this with only one set of clusters at the moment. Has the added advantage of keeping the shield stats/block for defense in exchange for your helmet/weapon.

Using PoB to play around with a second set of clusters, I think full crit build isn't that strong for Redemption Sentries. At least in my current gear.

Hybrid aura / crit does more damage than full crit for RS if the only DPS node on your mega is Vicious Bite. Full aura actually seems to do more damage than full crit as well (but less than hybrid). Below DPS values use mapping gems with Pierce and LMP; Haste + Hatred; no curse.

Using 1x Large and 2x Aura with Vengeful/Precise gives me 1.26 million DPS (this is what I use now).
Using 2x Large and 4x Mega with Vicious Bite gives me 2.04 million DPS.
Using 2x Large and 4x Aura with Vengeful/First gives me 2.14 million DPS (+5% vs mega).
Using 2x Large and 4x Aura with Vengeful/Precise gives me 2.39 million DPS (+17% vs mega; +12% vs Vengeful/First).

This actually makes sense as you're really only trading 35% x 4 = 140% increased crit multiplier for 120% increased Hatred effect + 26% increased non-curse aura with Vengeful/Precise.

So you go from 4.3x down to 2.9x crit multiplier, but Hatred almost doubles in effectiveness from 1.66x to 3.1x plus Haste goes from 1.66x to 1.9x (based on my tree, might vary slightly from build to build).

Add to that the jewel socket you get that's not available on the mega version, plus the fact that it does significantly more DPS when you don't have power charges (ie bossing) and I think the hybrid wins out hands down.

Obviously the really expensive mega's will win (ie Vengeful Commander + Vicious Bite) but not by a whole lot and not worth it until you're insanely rich.

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All in all, I haven't gotten any non-spider build to stand up to the map clearing power of my spiders. Though that's probably partially due to my 320% minion damage Elegant Hubris I lucked into (took me only 2 divines) since it lessens the relative effectiveness of any increased minion damage on a wand.

looking to start this build and plan on using arakaali's fang set-up.. Anyone doing this build? Is the PoB posted still the best setup? any help with this would be good

Hi I maybe missing something obvious here, but when I enter a map or a boss fight and use desecrate and arakaali's fang it doesn't summon up any spiders. I have to use Spectres or Zombie's to get the spiders. Not much use if being attacked when entering a map or fighting off a boss. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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Margambro wrote:

Hi I maybe missing something obvious here, but when I enter a map or a boss fight and use desecrate and arakaali's fang it doesn't summon up any spiders. I have to use Spectres or Zombie's to get the spiders. Not much use if being attacked when entering a map or fighting off a boss. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

It won't do anything because you need to kill monsters to proc spider summon.

For boss fights, the spectres have enough DPS to kill bosses without help. The spiders just for fast map clearing.

When you fight Sirus and other endgame bosses, you should use a temple wand (66% dmg / 5% DD). You can buy them for 1-5c.

Don't worry about spiders at all. It's actually pretty bad to use spider for boss fights because they despawn between phases like sirus storm phase.

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cremates wrote:

looking to start this build and plan on using arakaali's fang set-up.. Anyone doing this build? Is the PoB posted still the best setup? any help with this would be good

I'm using a new version of the S&S build.

https://pastebin.com/YjH8kK4n

It's about 2x more DPS than the early league version.