[3.1]Abyssal Wander Deathless Shaper & HOGM Videos

Looks great I'm assuming its also great at map farming. How does it compare to other wand builds in the aspect of clear speed and effective cost?

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IHadToChangeMyName wrote:

Still using vaal pact?
Because the passive tree you got is not updated?

Check the newest tree that was posted and/or the PoB - still using vaal pact, yes.

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Mutasyon wrote:

Looks great I'm assuming its also great at map farming. How does it compare to other wand builds in the aspect of clear speed and effective cost?

It's still clearing one screen per click pretty much - how it compares to others.. well, I only played a budget version of QOTF wander last league so I can't really compare it that much, but it's much faster than that - can't compare QOTF full potential to this though.

Effective cost is pretty high here, just the 2 abyss socket items + 5l chest + decent jewellery will drain 25ex+ probably. Then you gotta look for abyss jewels and in the top end they're really expensive as well. (Ideally you want life all res + 2 damage mods, or all res + 3 damage mods and life + 3 damage mods - really expensive)

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Why is that only viable at 94? For my tree right now for example I could respec the notes leading up to Blood Drinker and Nullification + the travel from Finesse to the dex note and spec into Revenge of the Hunted and Forces of Nature.
Though I guess I'll just do my tree as it is + the respec in PoB and see how the dps changes.

I don't want to influence people to get less than 5.5k life after lvl 90 where they'll start mapping T12+ maps. Abyss monsters at vuln maps can hit 5.6k life sometimes. It's necessary to have 5.5k+ life. If i had recommended that tree at the first place, lvl 80 people might have followed that tree, end up having 3.5-4k life. This Build is expensive to make, jewels are hard to get and therefore leading people to use risky trees can be really bad for them. They might not like the build and resell everything.

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Looks great I'm assuming its also great at map farming. How does it compare to other wand builds in the aspect of clear speed and effective cost?

possibly higher cost - higher boss dps, lesser map clearing speed due to lacking +% movement speed compared to qotf. The thing is if those builds aren't using a lot of jewels like we do(which this build completely based on benefiting most from them), they have to get better wands than piscator's to be able to reach high dps. At the start of the league we don't have GG rare wands lying around, so crafting those wands are close to impossible or extremely expensive. If you look from this perspective this build just needs jewels to work and jewels are extremely cheap at the start of the league. For a wander this build is quite high efficient build i must say. Shrtoud of the lightless is not expensiver than any other 6l uniques too. So, You feed piscator's with +flat damage jwewels, and that's it. You reach to the dps of what 30-40ex standard wands can offer with 15c wand. BUT wander builds as archetype are quite expensive. So i think this build is expensive but from im terms of efficiency of using wands, it's cheap.

Barrage Builds with 3 mirrored items & standard legacy gear have 4M DPS while this build is performing 2.7M dps with slightly above average gear. You have to give up something to be able to perform that, that is lacking % increased 360 movespeed like qotf builds have. Well all you gotta switch to qotf build from here is to change 6 points at the tree. I can share that tree to if you want. My pvp build had 360 movespeed with similar tree & qotf and only 6 nodes were different. YOu can see i'm clearing Hydra map in 1.16 with slight changes in my tree:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI_JQNIRlk0&t=9s

my gear is really good there, but i was using only 5l to be able to survive vs reflect.

Coming back to this build,

the focus of this build is to emphasize how good abyss jewels are and building a synergy with abyss items and jewels. Equalized resists, jewel focused tree, abyss items, shroud of the lightless and making the most out of it, these are the things that this build advertizes. IF you wanna use qotf, go for it, but don't throw the synergy between lightpoacher, enthroned darkness, bubonic trail, tombfist and jewels the trash bin. Basing damage rather than 15ex rings, 20ex amulets, 50ex wands to 15-20c jewels, This is a very cost efficient solution.

in short, wands scale additional +#-#flat damage like no other build do, abyss league brought an amazing opportunity for wanders with new abyss jewels. Use it. Qotf, Shroud, Yriel, it doesn't matter much. Just don't miss that point. this build has close to unlimited margins for improvement since it's all about feeding the wand with the most additional flat damage as possible. With unlimited margins, i'm not talking about 10M builds, i'm talking about 28.5M barrage build made with same mindset i did this build, here it goes,

Standard build: https://pastebin.com/TYNxJTN5 pob code.

what jewel mods are best for the build?



this jewel is the answer

Just wondering about bandits, cant really find the answer in your thread, I would be guessing kill them all? :P

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IHadToChangeMyName wrote:

Just wondering about bandits, cant really find the answer in your thread, I would be guessing kill them all? :P

i'm bored.

So I guess that its not worth trying to get this build going if I only have around 10ex to spend?

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H_Espenhein wrote:

So I guess that its not worth trying to get this build going if I only have around 10ex to spend?

make sure you have the chest 5l, piscators, 6-7 jewels abyssal jewels(20+ life, 3 flat damage). 4 of the mhas to have %10 all resistances. other abyss pieces aren't supposed to be 2 socketed to make the build work. You can use essence of contempt to craft your starter rings. takes 10-15c max to get something good.

If you don't have those, it's better to go for another build.

Request 1: DPS showcasing without vaal haste



someobdy asked for my pathfinder DPS at lvl 92, here it goes, after getting int + str from amulet, i can have around 124-125k.

AS you know, this is 5l DPS. 6th link is 37% global elemental penetration, it brings the tooltip dps to 155k dps.


Request 2: QOTF variant with abyss jewels

https://pastebin.com/W8LVefPW made for lvl 93

pob code for über Lab farming char(non competitive) / QOTF map clearer.

326% increased movespeed, 5.5k life(i'd use lower but it's requested)
1.77M shaper dps.

I might have done some mistakes while building the char: let me know.

Hi! Actually now wander even without many jewels still use piscators, than most rare wands. I was trying to buy QOTF, cause i like farming but i like the idea of new items. So, after reading, i understand you run barrage + 3 link KB? i mean, the lack of jewel links also come to less defensive and utility shit.

I have like 5.5k hp with bisco (that's why i'm still using 160 hp rare chest) and want to run bisco in your build, is it possible? QOTF wander would be faster in movement and almost as good as your's in single target. Especially in high end, with HH. But i wanna try new uniques. Also, you're following them, are they getting cheaper? Or more expensive (with 2 abyss sockets)?

Im lvl 91 pathfinder, just use your dps tree?

Thanks for the answers.