ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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rojimboo wrote:

But for the sake of amusement, let's indulge your fantasy. What is causing the rapid increase in co2 levels in the atmosphere, if not man?

There are many causes, but let's put it this way: during the Triassic period, temperatures were 3°C higher and atmospheric CO2 levels where more than three times current levels.

Global climate change goes through naturally occurring cycles since long before humans occupied this planet. Things have been far, far worse than they are now, and will be far, far worse again, unless we prevent it. Our hint is that the planet has come back from carbon crises before without human intervention.

It's not a cycle.

Early on, carbon was mostly at the surface and this created warmer climate. Then all that carbon slowly got turned into petroleum and/or coal and has been mostly stored in the crust of the earth. The only time levels of carbon in the atmosphere spike a lot is when there's a massive extinction event (plants thrives during those periods) and there's a massive planet wide fire that then release that carbon trapped in plants.

Beside that, the carbon in the atmosphere is constantly going down as living matter dies and the carbon is slowly trapped under the layers of the planet or in the deep oceans. That is, until there's an equilibrium with the volcanic eruptions.

Humans, however, are bringing back carbon that was once trapped in the depth of our planet back into the atmosphere.

Since there has not been a major extinction event that then allowed plants to thrive and then burn, on a world wide scale *naturally*, then humans can be the only cause of the increased carbon in the atmosphere.

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rojimboo wrote:

The science has been settled for over two decades now, yet still denialists like you exist.

This is the crux of the problem.

There are really really smart folks that have studied this issue of climate change their whole career. They have built up the knowledge over this topic for multiple generations. The scientific consensus is long settled, the agreement is that climate change is here, it's bad, it's going to get way worse, and it is significantly a man made problem. The consensus on the man made problem issue is the last of those settled issues but it has been a settled issue for over ten years in the scientific community.

The problem here in the USA is the Koch brothers. They get a little money for each gallon of gas that is manufactured because their father invented the currently used process for refining gasoline. They have the Republican party in their pocket. The Republican leaders tow their line of increasing gas sales no matter what.

You point out the crux of the problem, that is that the Republicans generally do not believe in science when it is inconvenient. I suspect we might be able to make a similar statement about Democrats if all the Democratic leaders were pushing nonsense that goes against science? Thankfully that isn't happening though.

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The_Impeacher wrote:

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diablofdb wrote:

Oh I agree, Abuse of power, witness tampering and bribery would def put Hillary in prison.

Trump (and Putin) have failed you in this and so many other promises. Why aren't you angry with them?

Note the poor fellow is still stuck on someone that has been totally irrelevant for two and a half years now. It's a sure sign of Trump Delusional Syndrome.

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The_Impeacher wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

Note the poor fellow is still stuck on someone that has been totally irrelevant for two and a half years now. It's a sure sign of Trump Delusional Syndrome.

It's sad.

Also weird is Trump freaking out about Mueller testifying. Trump has previously said that Mueller is a fine man who exonerated him. Why is he afraid of being further exonerated in a public hearing?

the only ones who are freaking out about Mueller investigation are you guys.... can't accept the reality, denying that there was never anything, it's just another big nothing burger.


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I'm just gonna coin the notion "political appartheid syndrome"

For both sides in this thread.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

I'm just gonna coin the notion "political appartheid syndrome"

For both sides in this thread.

Peace,

-Boem-

it is sure things are not getting better, it's like the USA is more and more divided on every topic every day. 2020 is going to be interesting.

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diablofdb wrote:

it is sure things are not getting better, it's like the USA is more and more divided on every topic every day. 2020 is going to be interesting.

As a history buff who mainly focuses on WW2 i sure do find the parallels to the late 20's to early 30's to be quite frightening. Will we be doomed to walk the same path again?

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The_Impeacher wrote:

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AldarisGrave wrote:

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diablofdb wrote:

it is sure things are not getting better, it's like the USA is more and more divided on every topic every day. 2020 is going to be interesting.

As a history buff who mainly focuses on WW2 i sure do find the parallels to the late 20's to early 30's to be quite frightening. Will we be doomed to walk the same path again?

Exactly. Fascism is a slow creeper.

Talking about the people that wanna see the system crash and burn because they know how to do it better?

Peace,

-Boem-

edit : i forgot to link a book. Because uhm....Impact!

I really hope Democrats get their shit together and actually make Mueller testify. Trump has already laid out the bait via Twitter (and of course, TDS_Reporter already fell for it), the questions from some Republicans toward Mueller will be lit.

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The_Impeacher wrote:

Exactly. Fascism is a slow creeper.

Really? REALLY!? You say that word but i don't think it means what you think it does. Now if you said Communism like Boem did you'd be right.

But i mean we live in a world where anyone politically to the right of Stalin and Mao is a Nazi/Fascist.

Also people seem to forget that it was the rise of communism and the violence it used that was the catalyst for the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei to not only rise up but quickly grow and easily enforce it's authoritarianism. But hey gotta run orangemanbad.exe like a good NPC comrade.

I really hope someone somewhere gets to actually see the Mueller report, unredacted.

Otherwise, that's very expensive paper you have there. Maybe for recycling.