ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP

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Xavderion wrote:

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rojimboo wrote:

k then. You realise Canada exists right? Plus countless others where they don't march for neo-nazi values carrying torches, and murder people of different political affiliations/beliefs/colour in the past few years.

Canada has around 3x the amount of hate crimes compared to the US if we look at it per capita. Just saying.

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Turtledove wrote:

muh central park jogger case

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Turtledove wrote:

Regarding your assertion that hate crimes are 3x more common in Canada. I searched the Internet and could find nothing to back up this claim. It dawns on me that perhaps that is info that you got off of social media?

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rojimboo wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

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rojimboo wrote:

k then. You realise Canada exists right? Plus countless others where they don't march for neo-nazi values carrying torches, and murder people of different political affiliations/beliefs/colour in the past few years.

Canada has around 3x the amount of hate crimes compared to the US if we look at it per capita. Just saying.

There could be many reasons for that if even true (source?).

Like reporting and keeping accounts of hate crimes. You realise Trump axed the department responsible for keeping account of the number of hate crimes in the US, right?

Differing laws, another thing, it might be less lenient in Canada.

Last time I checked no Charlottesville like incidents in Canada in recent years, or perhaps even ever.

This could be another Sweden rape myth situation, wouldn't be surprised.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

On Fox News Judge Andrew Napolitano says that Trump committed Obstruction of Justice. He also explains why Mueller didn't charge him even though he's guilty.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6029505643001/#sp=show-clips

Problem with this "obstruction" line it counts on Meuller is telling truth. I believe .gov about as much as I believe in tooth fairy. Witness Trumps lawyer saying nothing Meuller said is true. Not to mention turning over everything Meuller asked for when he has executive privilege (hardly obstructive behavior). Anyways show me proof- otherwise innocent until proven guilty.

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Xavderion wrote:

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rojimboo wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

Canada has around 3x the amount of hate crimes compared to the US if we look at it per capita. Just saying.

There could be many reasons for that if even true (source?).

Like reporting and keeping accounts of hate crimes. You realise Trump axed the department responsible for keeping account of the number of hate crimes in the US, right?

Differing laws, another thing, it might be less lenient in Canada.

Last time I checked no Charlottesville like incidents in Canada in recent years, or perhaps even ever.

This could be another Sweden rape myth situation, wouldn't be surprised.

So a mix of vagueness and conspiracy theories is what you're basing your assumption on? Very scientific of you.

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This Essay empirically evaluates the relationship between Donald Trump’s rise to power and the recent increase in reported hate crimes. A number of critics predicted that President Trump’s divisive rhetoric during the presidential campaign and his subsequent election would embolden hate crime perpetrators, thereby contributing to more hate crimes. Media commentators have dubbed this the Trump Effect.

We find compelling evidence to support the Trump Effect hypothesis. Using time series analysis, we show that Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations. Further, by using panel regression techniques, we show that counties that voted for President Trump by the widest margins in the presidential election also experienced the largest increases in reported hate crimes.

Using the data from this study, we offer a novel theory that builds on the existing literature on the causes of hate crimes. We hypothesize that it was not just Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric throughout the political campaign that caused hate crimes to increase. Rather, we argue that it was Trump’s subsequent election as President of the United States that validated this rhetoric in the eyes of perpetrators and fueled the hate crime surge.

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Xavderion wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

On Fox News Judge Andrew Napolitano says that Trump committed Obstruction of Justice. He also explains why Mueller didn't charge him even though he's guilty.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6029505643001/#sp=show-clips

Problem with this "obstruction" line it counts on Meuller is telling truth. I believe .gov about as much as I believe in tooth fairy. Witness Trumps lawyer saying nothing Meuller said is true. Not to mention turning over everything Meuller asked for when he has executive privilege (hardly obstructive behavior). Anyways show me proof- otherwise innocent until proven guilty.

The problem with obstruction is that there was no underlying crime. Mueller himself says in his report that Trump was trying to protect his presidency from what we now know was an unwarranted political coup. In addition to that, Trump has a shit ton of plausible deniability since he's the president and can actually fire whoever he wants for whatever reason. And as you said, Trump still cooperated with Mueller despite having that power and knowing that it was a baseless witch hunt.

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rojimboo wrote:

Um, how was I vague or wearing a tinfoil hat?

https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5967

In the US, apparently over half of hate crimes are not even reported.

It's up to you, the claimant, to prove that Canadians are more racist/commit more hate crimes per capita, all else being equal, ceteris paribus.

You've failed to do that so far.

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rojimboo wrote:

Something more scientific perhaps?

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3102652

The Effect of President Trump's Election on Hate Crimes

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rojimboo wrote:

I always giggle and laugh at this reasoning, rofl.

Let's get this straight.

Trump is apparently guilty of obstruction of justice, might even be impeached for that, for some crime that he is allegedly innocent of!

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rojimboo wrote:

He committed a crime (obstruction of justice) in order to protect himself because he was innocent? He went out of his way to hide, obfuscate, fire people, debilitate the investigation, because he was innocent??

Who da fuk believes this tripe??

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An annual report from the US federal government released on Tuesday shows there were more than 7,100 reported hate crimes last year. There were increases in attacks motivated by racial bias, religious bias and because of a victim’s sexual orientation.

The report shows there was a nearly 23% increase in religion-based hate crimes. There was a 37% spike in anti-Jewish hate crimes.

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After steady but relatively small increases since 2014, police-reported hate crime in Canada rose sharply in 2017,
up 47% over the previous year, and largely the result of an increase in hate-related property crimes, such as graffiti
and vandalism. For the year, police reported 2,073 hate crimes, 664 more than in 2016. Higher numbers were seen
across most types of hate crime, with incidents targeting the Muslim, Jewish, and Black populations accounting for
most of the national increase. These increases were largely in Ontario and Quebec.
Police-reported hate crimes refer to criminal incidents that, upon investigation by police, are found to have been
motivated by hatred toward an identifiable group. An incident may be against a person or property and may target
race, colour, national or ethnic origin, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, language, sex, age,
mental or physical disability, among other factors. In addition, there are four specific offences listed as hate
propaganda offences or hate crimes in the Criminal Code of Canada: advocating genocide, public incitement of
hatred, willful promotion of hatred, and mischief motivated by hate in relation to property used by an identifiable
group.
Canada's population has become more diverse as the proportion of Canadians who report being foreign-born,
non-Christian, or gay, lesbian, bisexual or in a same-sex relationship continues to grow. For example, one-fifth of
Canada's population was foreign-born in 2016 and, by 2036, this could range from 24.5% to 30.0%.
Since comparable data became available in 2009, the number of police-reported hate crime has ranged from a low
of 1,167 incidents in 2013 to a high of 2,073 in 2017. Despite the large increase, hate crimes in 2017 represented a
small proportion of overall crime at 0.1% of the more than 1.9 million non-traffic crimes reported by police services
that year.

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Xavderion wrote:

I (and Mueller through his report) literally told you why he defended himself, namely to protect his presidency from a political witch hunt. Why else would he do it since he's, as Mueller has proven, innocent regarding the Russia hoax?