ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP
"Incorrect in the sense of completely misunderstanding "left" and "right." But your misunderstanding is the exact mirror of the misunderstanding of Aim, Dalai and Khoranth. By the standard they set your understanding is not invalid; they have no justifiable basis by which to counter you, as they too will shift their personal Overton Window however they deem fit to put themselves on one extreme end of the political spectrum and their embarassments on the other. If truth is the will of the demos you have nothing to worry about. Carry on. Don't mind me. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB on Jul 27, 2018, 2:01:07 AM
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" So originally left vs right was used to represent progressiveness vs traditionalism, that's interesting. And how left vs right has been used has changed, depending on time/location. This makes sense to me, it seems like each era/region that uses left/right terminology just uses it for competing political ideologies based on what the most popular political ideologies are at the time. Like a blank piece of graph paper with an X/Y axis and the labels left/right on either side. I don't think there is a massive conspiracy of moving windows over eachother, like Scrotie keeps suggesting. Last edited by Khoranth on Jul 27, 2018, 6:53:00 AM
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" While I concede I've seen arguments like this on the internet before, let's just focus on the people in this thread for now. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.
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" You are taking something that seems really simple, and are overly complicating it so much that only you seem to follow your moving windows conspiracy Last edited by Khoranth on Jul 27, 2018, 9:32:22 AM
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Deathflower you are completely wrong when you speak of left/right in early Soviet era. Lenin was left/center, Trotsky was left (very), and Stalin was right.
You have to keep in mind that left/right is relative to the prevailing politics and economics. If you are referring to NEP and Bukharin he didn't get purged under Lenin. It was Stalin. Thought everyone knew that. NEP was supposed to be an experiment with capitalism (similar to the so called one they are doing in China now lol) that was born in the depths of the civil war and economic obliteration. Censored.
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" "Who is not with us, they against us" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror The prevailing politics after killing off all your enemies. Or People don't understand history. Leninism is to the right of Marxism. And Marxism doesn't exist in practice. Leninism specifically rejected Marxism as impractical and impracticable. Leninism was the dominant version of communism in Russia and the official state ideology of the Soviet Union. Just like Democrats are to the left if the left is really right. And Stalinism is to the right of Leninism. " [Removed by Support] Last edited by Al_GGG on Jul 27, 2018, 8:35:32 PM
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trump 2020
anything is everything
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Oh wow I wonder what got removed by support?
But I'm certain I know more about Soviet history than Deathflower. Absolutely certain. Manocean made more sense though. :) And I will leave it that as I have bigger (much bigger) fish to fry. Censored.
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I dont see whats so complicated about left/right. At the end of the day the right values individuals right so long as you dont hurt anyone. Biggest contention is abortion - they feel unborn child is more valuable than convenience of mother otherwise individual is king with property rights and independent action.
Low taxes (or none) Freedom of speech and religion letting a man work without massive EPA/OHSA and other gov bodies interference. And so on is all right Left is about control and regulate everything. From what you are allow to say in polite society (speech) to how you spend you money (taxes) to regulation of whole economy. Git R Dun! Last edited by Aim_Deep on Jul 28, 2018, 3:06:11 AM
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"At the risk of sounding like a broken record: Wrong. Individualism is centrist. The true right is collectivist. Here's a video from a Canada-to-Japan immigrant and prominent far-right YouTuber arguing that Dr. Jordan Peterson is out-of-touch, individualism is weak and identity politics is necessary: https://youtu.be/lrVyXdwft8E Not all forms of collectivism are left-wing, because not all forms of collectivism tend towards communist ideology. Some forms of collectivism are radically anti-communist and thus anti-left. ------------------- Molasses edit: NorK returns remains of ~7000 US soldiers from Korean War https://web.archive.org/web/20180727154803/http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-north-korea-remains-20180727-story.html When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB on Jul 28, 2018, 10:39:12 AM
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