[3.6] Zombiemancer - High Survivability - End Game Viable

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kompaniet wrote:
Tried über elder but my zombies die too fast. Might be better with empower lvl 4 and lvl 21 zombies. I only had lvl 20 zombies and empower lvl 3.

Screw that. I just wanted to give it a try. Was doing ok until my minions started dying.

Used purity of frost, hatred and war banner for auras.



Just in case you didnt do it: swapping out minion damage for minion life is highly recommended for this fight.

Apart from that, if your damage is high enough (which it should be i think), you could think about swapping a few skill points around just for this fight to make your zombies more beefy, namely the 2 Attackspeednodes around "Gravepact for Minion Life + Leech right next to it; and/or any nodes for the Life + Lifereg nodes right next to "Death Attunement".
Next to "Sacrifice" theres another life+lifereg node.

With the minion Life gem your zombies should have around 40k Life, so 1% extra reg might actually just make the difference for your zombies to survive the fight.
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LenaInverse wrote:
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kompaniet wrote:
Tried über elder but my zombies die too fast. Might be better with empower lvl 4 and lvl 21 zombies. I only had lvl 20 zombies and empower lvl 3.

Screw that. I just wanted to give it a try. Was doing ok until my minions started dying.

Used purity of frost, hatred and war banner for auras.



Just in case you didnt do it: swapping out minion damage for minion life is highly recommended for this fight.

Apart from that, if your damage is high enough (which it should be i think), you could think about swapping a few skill points around just for this fight to make your zombies more beefy, namely the 2 Attackspeednodes around "Gravepact for Minion Life + Leech right next to it; and/or any nodes for the Life + Lifereg nodes right next to "Death Attunement".
Next to "Sacrifice" theres another life+lifereg node.

With the minion Life gem your zombies should have around 40k Life, so 1% extra reg might actually just make the difference for your zombies to survive the fight.


Yes i used minion life as my sixth gem. They had about 40k life.

Good tip about getting more minion life on the tree. I didn't do that.

With some more minion life from the points you mention, lvl 21 zombies and empower 4 i think it would be much easier.
It what order should I max out Gem qualities?
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SmileforGlasgow wrote:
It what order should I max out Gem qualities?


That's a weird question, which is, I assume, why nobody answered it the first time around: The answer is, you should max them all out, including at the same time (I mean that's what I did, and it really only slowed me during the first two maps I did after resetting most of my gems from 20/0 to 1/20).

Generally you have by far enough Gemcutter's prism to do that by the time your gems reach lvl 20. Which pushes me to ask the question: Are you aware that you only need a single Gemcutter's prism to get 20% quality on a gem? All you need is to sell the gem lvl 20 + 1 gemcutter's prism to get a lvl 1 gem with 20 quality that takes no time to re-level to at least 15 where you get back most of your power (as long as you aren't going to fight Uber Elder during that time xD).

Maybe you knew and that was obvious to you, but the fact that you asked the same question twice in an interval of a few days (which should have been enough to get most of the gemcutter's prism you needed assuming you didn't have any) made me doubt it.

edit: I also wouldn't recommend upgrading quality on an equipped guardian from the "animate guardian" gem as I've been told it destroys the items with a lvl requirement to do so. Only upgrade this one if your guardian dies.
Last edited by Aesahethr#5297 on Jan 27, 2019, 2:26:31 AM
When i play caster or summoner i always level six gems on the weapon switch (in this case zombies) and vaal them when they are level 20.

Two ways i tend to do this:

1) I buy level 19 gems, preferably with a decent amount of experience already and make them lvl 1/20 quality and get them back up to 20 and vaal them.

2) Or i buy low level gems with as much quality as possible and level those to 20, use a few gem cutters to make them 20 quality and vaal them.

Whichever is the cheapest. It's usually also a good idea to buy a corrupted lvl 19 or 20/20 'failed raise zombie gem' to use for leveling and until one can get a level 21 gem.
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That's a weird question, which is, I assume, why nobody answered it the first time around: The answer is, you should max them all out, including at the same time (I mean that's what I did, and it really only slowed me during the first two maps I did after resetting most of my gems from 20/0 to 1/20).

Generally you have by far enough Gemcutter's prism to do that by the time your gems reach lvl 20. Which pushes me to ask the question: Are you aware that you only need a single Gemcutter's prism to get 20% quality on a gem? All you need is to sell the gem lvl 20 + 1 gemcutter's prism to get a lvl 1 gem with 20 quality that takes no time to re-level to at least 15 where you get back most of your power (as long as you aren't going to fight Uber Elder during that time xD).

Maybe you knew and that was obvious to you, but the fact that you asked the same question twice in an interval of a few days (which should have been enough to get most of the gemcutter's prism you needed assuming you didn't have any) made me doubt it.

edit: I also wouldn't recommend upgrading quality on an equipped guardian from the "animate guardian" gem as I've been told it destroys the items with a lvl requirement to do so. Only upgrade this one if your guardian dies.


I'm still quite new, and before I used a prism on a gem I waited for a response, and good thing I did. Now I know a level 20+1 gem gets it to 20% at level 1. Guess I should make do with the other 520 gems I bought for 2 exalted. XD
Great build so far!
I was wondering if you could give me some tips about upgrading my gear.
i came quite far and i got 6k life 4,5k ES and 1224 str
im looking for a 6link at the moment, but i got some more currency left after that for some upgrades.
but im a bit lost and dont know what i should upgrade more.
thanks in advance :)
FREAKDAFLOW//nl
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skS1 wrote:
Great build so far!
I was wondering if you could give me some tips about upgrading my gear.
i came quite far and i got 6k life 4,5k ES and 1224 str
im looking for a 6link at the moment, but i got some more currency left after that for some upgrades.
but im a bit lost and dont know what i should upgrade more.
thanks in advance :)


6Link + Lvl 21 Gems would be the obvious things to hit next.

Is your current flask loadout your primary loadout? I think you can get better defenses if you change them.

I use these while mapping/delving:


Having a flask with "3% of life regenerated during flask effect" helps alot imho. It is applied to your energy shield due to Zealoth's Oath.

A corrupted Empower lvl 3 costs around 5c currently and is probably the most cost effective upgrade you can currently get.
after getting that 6-link you should probably look into getting a better a shield, your current one is essentially a shield with 2 mods, the rest of the mods are pretty much useless to you.

i'm curious- just how necessary is mistress of sacrifice ascendancy for this build?

wouldn't puppet master be more beneficial in the long run since bar the minion duration thing, every other effects from the node are beneficial as opposed to MoS which only have the offering & skill duration effect applied for benefit while the other two effects from the node pretty much did nothing?
Last edited by zuouxarm#6784 on Jan 30, 2019, 11:09:10 AM

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