[3.5] Lioneye's Glare Ele Conversion Raider (all content, videos up)

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JessicaSc2 wrote:

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why does it matter that you need to attack 10 times for 20%? He clearly showed that even with ONE ATTACK, aka the base 10%, it is faster?

no, it's actually slower if you pick Avatar of the chase

In his video his base without Asc was 212% MS. After he added base from taildwind he had 243%

When you pick Avatar of the chase you get +40% increased MS so 212%--> 252%

True that it is slower with Avatar of the chase but how can you even say that when its clearly inferior 4 points compereing to veil? You cant dismiss ailment immunity and all the other defensive perks eather.

And it's only 20% if you run onslaught from other sources like abys jewel or flask.

However I'm not saying that deadeye is better but faster it is. And you can run dark rays as deadeye as well.

Personaly if I would play this build I would make it as a raider or trickster.

In that note have you planned what this build would look like as a trickster?

Ascendant looks extremely strong too. Much slower without a doubt, but comes with zero reflect, double golems, triple herald possibility and extra penetration. Scion pathing also allows for more life nodes to be picked up (although the pathing is really awkward until you actually get ranger start pathing).

I really like the tailwind node and I want to try the revamped Deadeye, but at the same time I really like the idea of this build and want to run it for Bestiary. If you had to go Deadeye, what nodes would you take and what bow would you use instead (since far shot and hits evaded are redundant)? Death's Opus has low physical damage to start off. Don't really know since I haven't played an archer since EA with BM was super popular.

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And it's only 20% if you run onslaught from other sources like abys jewel or flask.

Which flask are you giving up, Crit, Atziri, ToH, Dying Sun or Move Speed flask (which will again only make you slower)? Flask spot is not something you can just "give up". Not to mention you won't be able to sustain it vs bosses. Abyss jewel that's like 4% chance to gain it on kill for couple of seconds and you're giving it up for a mod - that's basically useless.

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However I'm not saying that deadeye is better but faster it is.

If you compare 2 Ascendancies only you can see that in terms of move speed you get 10-20% more MS on Deadeye and ~56% increased MS on Raider. Deadeye is probably faster when you intentionally stack a ton of MS, so like 200%+ (think Queen of the forest builds) and Raider is probably faster when you stack less (sub 200%). But the difference is not overwhelming for the either side.

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If you had to go Deadeye, what nodes would you take and what bow would you use instead (since far shot and hits evaded are redundant)?

I would go Tailwind, Fast and Deadly and + 1arrow. If I had to pick a pdps bow I would still use Lioneye's because all the other uniques suck tbh. But I would probably just run a different build altogether, most likely Windripper.

If ur stuck with 4 and 5 links in the beginning of a league. How are ur TS and Barrage Setups looking ?

Question:

Have you ever thought about the issue of points on GRACEFUL ASSAULT?

16% increased Attack Damage
25% increased Evasion Rating while you have Onslaught
10% chance to gain Onslaught for 4 seconds on Kill

Thanks so much for this build <3 ! I'm going to use this as my starter build in HC Beastiary but probably use Ice Shot since the sound effect for it is more satisfying to me :)

I think avatar of slaughter and Chase is the way to go right now. The main benefit of Veil that we are missing is the imunity to ailments. I think the best (and only) way to counter it is to get staunching on the diamond flask and of heat on the quicksilver. Or am I missing something?

Can't wait to see if anything groundbreaking changes for this build with the patch notes. been waiting eagerly for your update ;-)

Thank you again for the build!

Build still op for 3.2?

Any plans to maintain this build in 3.2? Obviously the direction of the build is still great but abyss jewels are way harder to get now and other balance things may have changed.

Edit: for example, with the new balance changes, any interest in Avatar of the Chase over Avatar of the Veil? You easily maintain permanent onslaught now, and get more movement speed from Avatar of the Chase alone than the entire Avatar of the Veil path (since Veil was nerfed)