[3.3] MF Windripper Deadeye | TS and Barrage | PoB Link

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ShoveMoneyDeeper wrote:
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hybridboy wrote:
I asked that like 5 times but no one answered.
how can you run elemental reflect maps with this build?
the guide says you can, but i basically just 1 shot myself to death.

Not sure how the OP can, but I would suggest few things:
1. Yugul's pantheon power reduce amount reflected.
2. Sibil's ring reduces it too.
3. Nodes on the tree reduces it too.

Have you tried these things?


1. yes
2. no, those are bad rings for anything else. i need the res from my rings as other equipment isnt providing enough res.
3. if you are talking about Primeval Force node, then yes.

still not enough :\
do you manage to run ele ref maps?
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hybridboy wrote:
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ShoveMoneyDeeper wrote:
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hybridboy wrote:
I asked that like 5 times but no one answered.
how can you run elemental reflect maps with this build?
the guide says you can, but i basically just 1 shot myself to death.

Not sure how the OP can, but I would suggest few things:
1. Yugul's pantheon power reduce amount reflected.
2. Sibil's ring reduces it too.
3. Nodes on the tree reduces it too.

Have you tried these things?


1. yes
2. no, those are bad rings for anything else. i need the res from my rings as other equipment isnt providing enough res.
3. if you are talking about Primeval Force node, then yes.

still not enough :\
do you manage to run ele ref maps?


You can swap gear for certain maps...simply use other belt or something for ele reflect maps and you need ONLY ONE ring in specific slot (depending on which reflect countering you need).
I just started again leveling this build, played before Heavy Strike Marauder and now can finance this one, but seems people are having here same problems I used to have when I've first tried this build.
WIth my current char, which is 30+, I could do ele reflect 10% Vaal Side area easy(wearing just Thief's Torment as a healing ring), which usually gets you dead.
With those suggestions I managed to do ele reflect maps with Lifting's Lead Sprinkler build, that build is ele based and was fine when I took those things as an options, then I swaped back my ring and other pantheon for other maps.
There is also another option, jewels which under certain circumstance give you reduced reflected damage, watcher's Eye Jewels. They come in random combinations, but you can find that fits you. They're expensive:)
Another option would be, if you're Deadeye, is to save those maps and switch eventually for endgame to Raider, which has ele immunity while phasing, I bet OP meant specifically this, that with that ascendancy you wouldn't need to worry about elemental damage.
Last edited by ShoveMoneyDeeper#4932 on Apr 10, 2018, 9:38:54 PM
Where do you get your leech from for vaal pact to be effective?
Rigwalds is useless - as Tornado Shot projectiles can not fork!!
Piercing Projectiles can not fork and Tornado Shot is a piercing arrow projectile.

this is why drillneck is so much better because it gives you 50% extra dmg with piercing hits - as tornado shot is a 100% piercing attack it makes 50% more damage rather than the just up to 50% projectile damage from rigwalds - ignoring the fork completely because it is not going to happen with TS

Including to this drillneck gives phys damage, life and evasion and with corruption an additional arrow which is not that expensive (~1/2 ex)

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IceFireFox wrote:
Where do you get your leech from for vaal pact to be effective?


Claw node with lioneyes jewel 50% inc life leech, 1,2% dmg leeched as life and vitality void 0,8% dmg leeched as life

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hybridboy wrote:

still not enough :\
do you manage to run ele ref maps?


yes, but not with brain afk running into the map and playing like on every other map. I have to kite not shoot in the middle of 5000 monsters - its more like one by one, and dont pull together very big groups - the smaller the better.

Sybills ring + reflect panth with over 2% dmg leeched as life is enough.

You can also use brutality support gem for ele reflect maps (if your link colours allow it) which makes all your dmg phys dmg - And usually is enough for being able to clear the map - even tho it will be slower for sure
Last edited by exxidus#7943 on Apr 11, 2018, 5:28:26 AM
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ShoveMoneyDeeper wrote:


You can swap gear for certain maps...simply use other belt or something for ele reflect maps and you need ONLY ONE ring in specific slot (depending on which reflect countering you need).
I just started again leveling this build, played before Heavy Strike Marauder and now can finance this one, but seems people are having here same problems I used to have when I've first tried this build.
WIth my current char, which is 30+, I could do ele reflect 10% Vaal Side area easy(wearing just Thief's Torment as a healing ring), which usually gets you dead.
With those suggestions I managed to do ele reflect maps with Lifting's Lead Sprinkler build, that build is ele based and was fine when I took those things as an options, then I swaped back my ring and other pantheon for other maps.
There is also another option, jewels which under certain circumstance give you reduced reflected damage, watcher's Eye Jewels. They come in random combinations, but you can find that fits you. They're expensive:)
Another option would be, if you're Deadeye, is to save those maps and switch eventually for endgame to Raider, which has ele immunity while phasing, I bet OP meant specifically this, that with that ascendancy you wouldn't need to worry about elemental damage.


switching gear is not ideal, and you still lose alot of res.

im playing as raider, phasing isnt providing you with ele immunity, just ailments immunity (cant be frozen, chilled..)






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exxidus wrote:
Rigwalds is useless - as Tornado Shot projectiles can not fork!!
Piercing Projectiles can not fork and Tornado Shot is a piercing arrow projectile.

this is why drillneck is so much better because it gives you 50% extra dmg with piercing hits - as tornado shot is a 100% piercing attack it makes 50% more damage rather than the just up to 50% projectile damage from rigwalds - ignoring the fork completely because it is not going to happen with TS

Including to this drillneck gives phys damage, life and evasion and with corruption an additional arrow which is not that expensive (~1/2 ex)


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hybridboy wrote:

still not enough :\
do you manage to run ele ref maps?


yes, but not with brain afk running into the map and playing like on every other map. I have to kite not shoot in the middle of 5000 monsters - its more like one by one, and dont pull together very big groups - the smaller the better.

Sybills ring + reflect panth with over 2% dmg leeched as life is enough.

You can also use brutality support gem for ele reflect maps (if your link colours allow it) which makes all your dmg phys dmg - And usually is enough for being able to clear the map - even tho it will be slower for sure


killing monsters one by one is very bad for MF build, missing the point basically.
i will try the brutality gem, it might be enough.

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hybridboy wrote:

killing monsters one by one is very bad for MF build, missing the point basically.
i will try the brutality gem, it might be enough.



I dont think that "being able to run reflect map" means being able to still go on with mfing...

it just means - you can run it if you really have to (for whatever reason)

For MF purpose its best to just scoure the map and create a new one ... or sell it and buy a more appropriate
yea, im just avoiding those.
leaving them to my other builds.
Last edited by kanon1#2611 on Apr 11, 2018, 7:40:51 AM
Silly me.. I've been using a Vinktars for spells this whole time. Decided to go on the cheap route.. 5 chaos, checked yday my dmg and saw that it wasn't effecting me.
Spoiler
Now.. 50 chaos later.


Btw boys.. I have been working in a setup for bossing..

Can anyone check it?

Spoiler


I know the diamond ring sucks.. But I didn't really had the currency to buy another one. So i just slammed an alch in it. Maybe I'll try to anull life and beastcraft something in it, idk.

waiting your replies!
Last edited by DonMarshall#2952 on Apr 11, 2018, 8:37:23 AM
Hello what do you think its better for uber atziri runs,to get Chin-Sol,Doomfletch Prism (Legacy) or to run it with a mirrored phys bow?

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